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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 684
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Friday, December 17, 2004 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is a 1910 photo of an engine room with triple 4 cylinder Gray Model "T" engines, each cylinder produced 9 hp for a total of 108 Hp.
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I have some updated info on these Gray T's, if some of you with these engines want to post a few serial numbers we can update our prior information and date them more accuratley ??
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richarddurgee
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Posted on Friday, December 17, 2004 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Gray model T's were the 2 cycle engines with the removable head under the metal head cover !
They were made in 1,2,3, and 4 cylinders, with 7,9 and 12 hp per cylinder.

GS
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Bill S
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Posted on Friday, December 17, 2004 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

here is the grayling engine room and ad that mentions engines

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Bill S
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Posted on Friday, December 17, 2004 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

here is my 24 hp Model T

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Bill S
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Posted on Friday, December 17, 2004 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think this is a model T.




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Bill S
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Posted on Friday, December 17, 2004 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone got the parts I need for my 24 hp T? timer, timer gear cover, water pump, oiler?

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robert
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Post Number: 143
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Friday, December 17, 2004 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What a set up; separate coil for each cylinder! My Gray Model T has serial number 17T20625, 4.75" bore and 3.75" stroke. What HP would that make it? 80+ years old and that bore is smooth as glass...

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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 686
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Gray model T's were made in two Hp ratings per cylinder, 7hp and 12hp. A 9 hp may have been available in early production.
Here is 1914 spec sheet, anyone have an earlier one ?


Gray spec


After researching it seems that the Gray model T was on the market 1910 to 1917. WWI afffected most engine mfgrs, I believe Gray ceased all 2 cycle engine production in 1917, the only exception was the model U which was continued until 1927.
The model T was only produced for 7 years.
The serial numbers should be consistent with Hp, model and production year.
The serial no should be stamped in the face of the outer ring of the flywheel.

Bill S
Model T above, the serial no. was listed here before and this is how its read !

Bill S

The T is for model T, the numbers to the left are Hp and should be a 7 for a 7Hp single or a multiple of seven , twin 14 Hp, triple 21 Hp,4 cyl 28 Hp. Same with 12 Hp single, twin 24 Hp, triple 36 Hp, 4 cyl 48 Hp. The 4 th number in counting from the right is production year.
Gray also put these engines together in combinations as in first paragraph above.
This ad is from a 1910 publication although it states 1911 ?

Gray10

Robert's Model T above serial no. 17T20625
would be a model T, 7 Hp made in 1910. and the 4 3/4 bore in specs above would agree.

How about some Gray Model T serial Numbers to compare to !!! Ernie Where are you ??
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Bill S
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Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can't read the serial number on this T





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Bill S
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Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard, just for fun, on the bottom of your posted engine list, the note talks about the Mississippi sandsucker. Here it is in all it's sandsucking glory.

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