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Matthew Lennarz
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Username: mlennarz

Post Number: 16
Registered: 06-2010


Posted on Monday, November 01, 2010 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello,

I had the temperature sensor removed from my P60 head, and noticed that there was a lot of rust lying at the bottom of the cooling water. I was wondering if I should be concerned, and / or should do more diagnostics to determine if I need to get ready to replace the head. Is there any way to assess the rust damage without poking holes in it? Also, if I am not mistaken, it sounds like (at least a few years back in the postings) new or rebuilt heads were still available from tractor dealers? Can anyone confirm if this is still true? If so, do you have a name / contact info? I appreciate any help you can offer.

Thanks,
Matt
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Richard A. Day Jr.
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Username: richardday

Post Number: 908
Registered: 11-2003


Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The P-60 is the IHC CUB LO-BOY C-60 engine. Not Cub Cadet. Go to any used tractor dealer and buy a good used head. Tractors don't typically rust out like salt water cooled engines as they are cooled with water and anti freeze. Note the wealth of info under topics regarding the Palmer P-60. You will have to tap an 1/8" NPT for the air bleed line on the top of the head. plug the thread hole for the tractor control bracket as it isn't used in the marine conversion. Get a new compressible copper head gasket from Gaskets To Go. Have the used head surface ground to make sure it fits well on the P-60. Myself I use HI TAC on the mating surfaces to seal the joints.
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Matthew Lennarz
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Username: mlennarz

Post Number: 17
Registered: 06-2010


Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Richard! I did read through some of the older postings, but I wanted to get a sense of availability on the heads these days.

Is there any concern in replacing the head BEFORE it rusts through? I know that in some engines this could cause warping as the cold water hits the hot block.

I am not a mechanic, but think there is enough info on the postings that I understand the process. Thanks again for the tips on how to convert the tractor head for marine use - - I really appreciate your expertise.
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Eddie Ross
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Username: eddie

Post Number: 255
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are brand new cylinder heads made by after market tractor suppliers. I got one from Steiner Tractor about 8 years ago. If you use a tractor head you will have to drill and tap a 1/8" pipe thread hole for the fitting for the air bleed line. If you are not familiar with pipe threading you should get some advice or have a machine shop do it for you.

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