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John Wallis
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Folks, I'd appreciate any help and info on the attached reverse gear. It came attached to an Andres Marine 1955 Packard 320 cid V8 marine conversion motor that I acquired at Ladd's Boat Yard in Stockton CA. No casting numbers or data plate are present. I'd like to get some idea of the Mfg, year, correct lube fluid and capacity, etc. Also need a new top cover gasket if available. It is a 1:00 to 1:00 ratio with a 1 inch shaft collar.

Thanks in advance,

John
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John Wallis
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Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Trying pics againgear
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Chris Jones
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Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like a 35XE Paragon.. to know for sure remove the top cover and read the numbers off of the round drum. If it's a Paragon it will have a model & Serial number. If it is a paragon I can Help with parts. My Phone is 843-822-1019 Even if it is not a paragon I will still try to help you.
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Chris Jones
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Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks as if the dipstick is missing......use SAE 30W motor oil in units of that vintage. If You can get the Serial Number I can tell you the dipstick part number.....may be even find one.
Also the Serial Number can help pin down the year.

CJ
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John Wallis
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Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2012 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the info Chris. The numbers on the drum are: 643B 85586K

As well as the bolt holes and vent, there are two other ports in the top cover. There was a coiled copper line extending to the bottom of the case in the rear hole and exiting over the top of the cover. It was crushed when I got the unit (you can see it on the ground in the bottom left photo). I am guessing it may have gone back into the forward hole on the cover and intended as an oil cooler? It was broken/cut and not connected to anything when I got the unit. Perhaps one of the holes was originally for a dipstick?

Thanks for your help,

John
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Chris Jones
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well it is probably NOT the 35EX Paragon because the numbers on the drum are not right for it to be a paragon. Post a picture with the cover off of it and I might still know what it is.
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John Wallis
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Chris, thanks for the reply. Here is a pic of the innards:
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Chris Jones
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Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think that is a Snow Nabstadt transmission
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John Wallis
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Chris, I looked at some S-N gear photos on line and found none similar. I did find a photo of a Capitol that is somewhat but not exactly the same.

http://www.glen-l.com/phpBB2/download/file.php?id=7826&sid=14a402804fc2f9f830795 22aa0df5f35&mode=view

Thanks for your help, I'll keep searching.

John
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Chris Jones
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Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If it is a Capitol then it is easy to ID the unit by the part numbers on the parts. I have a list of the old part numbers and we can ID the unit that way. It might be a Packard Transmission I will be looking in to that.

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