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Paul Childerhose
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Username: gt4

Post Number: 5
Registered: 10-2014
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2014 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hope you got these pictures Richard. I'm not to swift at this computer stuff. Last try then I will have to try something else
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RichardDurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 3402
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Monday, November 03, 2014 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Paul Childerhose
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Username: gt4

Post Number: 6
Registered: 10-2014
Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2014 - 04:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for posting the pictures Richard.I hope someone can tell me the approx year and some info on it.
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miro forest
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Username: miro

Post Number: 777
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2014 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My observations:
Uses a gib key to hold the flywheel - early
Has a check valve - 2 port engine
Has a split crankcase - later
Has cast in place passages to grease the main bearings - later
Has a 4 bolt water cooled head thus lower compression - early
Has a carburator not a mixing valve - later
Crankshaft looks to be about 7/8 in - early
The base of the timer adjustment rod looks to be cast into the crankcase - thus - factory , but the upper end seems not factory
Has no provision to oil the cylinder - thus oil was mixed with gasoline - later

I shuddered when I saw the 2 small bolts drilled and tapped into the water jacket of the head - ouch !
The screws are Robertson headed screws - Canadian ( also the Mastercraft table saw in the background - Canadian Tire house brand

Early - pre-1907
Later - post-1907

Any info and where it came from? A barn find? A "old guy" etc

miro
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Paul Childerhose
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Username: gt4

Post Number: 7
Registered: 10-2014
Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2014 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for your knowledge miro forest. I got this off a guy that said it belonged to his father in-law.He said the only thing he was told was it was 1920's era but was not sure.The father in-law died and he just wanted it gone.Do you think this is a home made jobby, or do you know what brand it might be.Oh ya your keen eye on the table saw is bang on LOL.
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miro forest
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Username: miro

Post Number: 779
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Saturday, November 08, 2014 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The casting for the upper part of the crank case and cylinder is a complicated piece of pattern making and core work. It's not something that an individual might do for only one engine. There are many other ways of doing this, if your intention is to only make one ( or possibly two) engines.
The area around the exhaust port shows that the designer was trying to improve the gas flow out of the internal exhaust port.
SO I suspect that it was made by a factory somewhere.
It could also be that the castings were brought in from another factory or foundry and finished into complete engines. That was a common practice although many who used this way of getting into the business did not survive very long.

Our pal Richard D in Fla might have an opinion on where this might have come from.

miro
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Paul
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Username: gt4

Post Number: 8
Registered: 10-2014
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2014 - 07:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks miro for taking the time on this engine.It sounds like we're getting closer to finding out the make of this engine and model.Like you say maybe Richard d from florida will offer his opinion too.
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RichardDurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 3405
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2014 - 07:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Unfortunately this engine doesn't have a distinguishing trait that is identifiable in my system ? It goes into the "UKNOWN FILE"


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Paul
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Username: gt4

Post Number: 9
Registered: 10-2014
Posted on Monday, November 10, 2014 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Richard.I'll just be satisfied with that.I would never have got this far if not for you guys and this site. Thank you so much.

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