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rickr
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Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What type of boat would have used this engine and can anyone post a picture of the type of boat? I first saw a Palmer ZR-1 this year at Arcadia MD engine show and was amazed. I'm usaly around hit and mis engines but marine engines are a new thing for me and I find them fascinating.
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richardday
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Username: richardday

Post Number: 663
Registered: 11-2003


Posted on Monday, September 29, 2008 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They were widely used by Chesapeake Bay watermen in so called deadrise hulls 20-25 feet. Don't happen to have a picture I can think of which will give you an idea. Many had no cabin some had a small enclosure at the bow with a second steering station out of the wet. Many had the main steering at a work station mid ship on the Starboard side
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ernie
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Registered: 01-2002


Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is some info
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesapeake_Bay_deadrise
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richardday
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Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the tip on that great site Ernie. Never knew it existed. Amazing what you can find on the internet!!! In my comments regarding the ZR-1 it would be in a deadrise hull more near 20-25 feet. Have seen a lot of rotten hulls around the coves and creeks of the Chesapeake Bay. Years ago the ZR-3s and ZR-4s were widely used but by the 1950 time frame most of the hulls in the greater than 25 to 40 feet seemed to automotive conversions. The most common in the 1960s on was the 455 Olds. In 1973 I bought a new from the Baltimore Olds dealer 455 with marine carburetor and marine fuel pump for $550.00. The reverse gear from Barr was $600.00, Exhaust manifold, 75.00 ea, adapter for the reverse gear to the engine block etc. was included in the reverse gear price. It seemed to me every waterman on the Bay was using the same setup. The heat exchanger and sea water pump for fresh water cooling of the block and manifolds was $300.00
The total was roughly half that of any of the comparable marinized engines from any maker. A truly marvelous engine. A lot of the watermen would run two mufflers straight up with a dry exhaust. Hard to believe today how few watermen seem to be working the bay. Pollution and over fishing/crabbing and oystering. Gone are the days when $2.00 would buy a large pail full of soft shell clams. Most were exported to New England as many of the locals didn't know people ate them. They ground them up for chum!!!.

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