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NickF
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Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 06:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello.
Thinking of buying a 16ft clinker putt putt with 2 cylinder Blaxland motor.
No nothing about these, is there anything special to look for or to ask about.
These are 2 stroke? how are they operated? what is the big lever for?
Any help, information or useful links greatly appreciated.
Nick
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Todd Vidgen
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Username: todd_vidgen

Post Number: 151
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you have not had much experience with "putters",
I strongly recommend you take some one who does,as there are a multitude of things to check for
besides the motor.
Yes they are two stroke
The big lever is most probably the clutch lever.
Thoroughly check out the hull as well for rot,loose
and broken ribs ,fastenings etc
Shaft,stern glands,prop,rudder,engine mounts and
bearers Etc Etc Etc
Shipwrights dont come cheap,neither does timber,
glue,paint,and chandelry
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NickF
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Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250530913461&ssPageName=AD ME:B:EF:AU:1123
Thanks for the feedback.
The boat and the motor have been restored, looks ok but will have a look and take for a run.

Nick
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Laurie Derwent
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Username: laurie_d

Post Number: 6
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Sunday, November 29, 2009 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nick, I agree with Todd's comments and would add that one needs to be extra cautious of any timber boat that has been fibreglassed. Blaxland motors are very simple, low maintenance, if not old in design. They need very little tuning to be easy starters. Given that you will not be able to pull the motor (or carby or magneto) apart it should have plenty of compression (just pull each spark plug out and hold you thumb over the top while turning it over by hand). I'd look at the saddle bearing and operation of the water pump (If the gland on the water pump leaks the salt water will drip onto the crank shaft). The saddle should look solid and not thin on the bottom side (Todd may have some measurements but I guess at least 8 mm.) Signs of rust or repairs around the cylinders and muffer, smooth running prop shaft, a good solid spark from the magneto and smooth (but an audible clunk (not clank) is OK) in the clutch operation. The motor can run forwards or reverse controlled by magneto position. If it has fuel (primed by rocking the flywheel under choke) it should start on first or second pull, uses 32:1 fuel oil (I use premium unleaded with 1/2 50 grade oil and 1/2 marine 2 stroke). Avoid ethanol if the float in the carby is the original cork (ethanol is likely to dissolve the shellac). I'm sure there's more
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NickF
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Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Laurie
Some good advice.
The top of the boat has been fibreglassed the bottom was stripped repaired and painted,from what I've been told?

Nick
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Todd Vidgen
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Username: todd_vidgen

Post Number: 152
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"fully restored" scares me.
Do you know the name of the boat,location etc.
Just had a friend buy a "fully restored" boat
The bow spirit fell off on the first run,
in the first week we have rebuilt the water pump,
carburetor,magneto,noted loose engine bearers
When I did the boat code,and was fixing the HIN #
plate to the transom,I did not have to squeeze the
trigger on the drill to make holes for the fixing
screws. If you are going to spend your "hard earned"(which I'm sure will be considerable if
the vessel is fully restored)Get a survey.
It might cost around $250>$400 for a putter,but
better than buying a can of worms.Are you in NSW?
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Nick Field
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Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The boats in Nowra. Named "Happy Days"
I'm in Geelong

Nick
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Laurie Derwent
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Username: laurie_d

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Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nick, GRP over timber on the decks seems to be popular these days and provided the timber was sound when the job was done and water cannot get into the timber under the fibreglass it should be OK. Again I agree with Todd, a survey would be a good idea, I'm not sure where you could get one at Nowra.
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Nick Field
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Username: nickf

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Posted on Monday, November 30, 2009 - 01:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Laurie and Todd, just spoke to a surveyor in Nowra, $300 to survey and will give opinion on price.
Will get survey done then decide if worth driving up.
Thanks again for advice.

Nick
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Mick Rossendell
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Username: micknfi

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Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 05:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Nick,
Hope all goes well with your Putter, I can totally agree with Todd's comments as he refer's to my Putter, A "Fully restored" Boat is only as good as the restorer's ability. Yes I may well have bought a dodgy boat, but that is on my head only and I took what the seller told me as sound advise of the seller(as he is known in my Village) and I thought I could trust the seller! but hey I will admit that I knowengly bought a 1930's hull that had leaks etc.....what do u expect fom a clean skin clinker of that vintage, But!!!!! being told it was a reco engine is another story................Boyd and Todd are currently working on parts for "IMP" as we speak.

I really suggest a survey of a boat no matte what your experiance level is!!
I will openly thank Todd & Boyd for their fantastic help & advice in the restoration of "IMP" to her former glory.
Beers on me this Friday!!!!

Pics to be posted
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Nick Field
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Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mick.

Would be good to have a look at your boat.
Pictures of the "problem " areas would be handy.
I guess the problems with the motor weren't obvious?
I seem to have a high maintenance life wooden house circa 1880's cars from the 60's,small clinker row/sailing boat not to mention a wonderful but high maintenance wife, so hopefully an old putt putt will fit in just fine.


Nick
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Mick Rossendell
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Username: micknfi

Post Number: 4
Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2009 - 06:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Nick
Have been flat out lately...just bought another putter with a twin blaxland...so I guess that means I have a fleet! will get some pics up soon for you once this one is of the slips and repaired.
Cheers

Mick

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