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Mark Damewood
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Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I posted a couple of pictures of an engine I have on the unkown engine page. I was hoping someone could tell me what it was. I was recomended to this site by Otto gas engine supply.

Thanks,
Mark Damewood
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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 1831
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Mark

Looks like an identification of this engine is not on the tip of anyones tongue ? I have a file for unknown engs and will look for it as time permits !
Do you have the manifolds ? they are helpful for I.D ?

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Mark Damewood
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Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2008 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Richard for responding, your name was highly recomended by Otto. Here is a picture with the manifold on. It is a one piece manifold. I dont't think the carb is original. My dad and I have been repairing and restoring magnetos for 30 years and have seen many engines but can not put a name to this one. To me it looks simular to the the upper left hand corner picture on the Brown - Talbot page.

Thanks again,
Mark Damewood
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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 1833
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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This photo should help matters, from many of these engs i've looked at the manifold is rather distinctive, the side plate with the cast simi- circle cam gear cover at the rear is different and the spacing from the front of the block to flywheel is wide to allow that rather long flat timer support bracket ? another question are the threads american ? helps to tell if its orign is North American !

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Mark Damewood
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Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All the threads are American. Something else I noticed was all of the parts have a raised casting number. They all start with I- and then there are two numbers. For example the timer bracket has the casting number of I-51. There is also on top of the crankcase between the cylinders the numbers 2-14, stamped not cast. The bore is 4" and stroke is 4.5".

Thanks,
Mark Damewood
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johnny
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Username: johnny

Post Number: 173
Registered: 03-2006
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is it possible this engine is a early automobile engine?
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solarrog
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Post Number: 321
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The carburetor has the rich lean adjustment like my model A ford
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Mark Damewood
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Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't think this a auto engine. The carb I don't think is original. It is a late model (middle 40's) Ford model A carb. I think the engine is a little older than that (20's). It has a exterior piston style water pump that drives off an eccentric on the end of the camshaft. There is a flip out style hand crank in the edge of the flywheel. The crank is exended outside the engine about 20", much longer than would be in an auto.

Thanks for the comments and keep them coming,
Mark Damewood
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richardday
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Username: richardday

Post Number: 666
Registered: 11-2003


Posted on Monday, October 06, 2008 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The flywheel is much too thick for any automotive engine I can think of. Trying to throttle that engine in an automitive application would not be very responsive.
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thomas
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Username: thomas

Post Number: 291
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is a thread of a Regal that you need to look at. The Regal in the catalog scan from Andrew has the same manifold, same short stubby timer drive and same water pump, same looking cylinders. Whatcha' tink?
http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/1/44.html
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Mark Damewood
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Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2008 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have looked at the Regal posts and I don't think that is it. The tops of the cylinders are much to rounded. If you look close at the Regals they have the spark plugs in the screw-in valve cages above each valve and the water outlet/inlet above the center of the piston. The spark plugs in my engine are in the top of the cylinder above the center of the piston. That area is open into the cumbustion chamber, unlike what it looks like in the Regals.

Thanks again, keep them coming,
Mark Damewood

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