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rbprice
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Post Number: 351
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Attached are some files pertaining to the Mathews Boat Company and the Lozier Engine Company which once had a close relationship. Some folks in Port Clinton, OH have a 1902 Mathews boat in a small marine museum and the would like to find a Lozier engine, of the appropriate age, to put in the boat.

Apparently, the two companies had close ties even after Lozier left Toledo and moved to Platsburgh, NY on Lake Champlain.

Would anyone know of a suitable Lozier engine that could be either donated or sold to the museum to help them complete the display?

The engine in the ad is quite small but maybe one of you guys will recognize it.

Thanks

application/unknownLOZIER ENGINE HISTORY
LOZIER HISTORYl.pdf (50.7 k)

MATHEWS BOAT AD SMALL
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ernie
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Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here are some copies from the Rudder Mag 75th anniversary issue in 1965.
Engine is a Fay and Boswen and not lozier though



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bruce
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Post Number: 281
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Posted on Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great call Ernie-Very interesting info
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ernie
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Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is the rest of the article
Sorry for the omission
Ernie
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rbprice
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Post Number: 352
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Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

AH HA - that is some very interesting info Ernie: Thanks.

Does anyone have a 1902/5 Fay & Bowen catalog that may show an engine like the one in the Mathews ad? Notice the the width of the flywheel seems to be much wider than most single cylinder engines of that period.
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ernie
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Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And finally the last last page
The F and B isn't the original engine I am told
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ernie
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Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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bruce
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Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

BOB, Keith's Fay Bowen engine is a pre 1904 Auburn NY built F&B. Search for Fay & Bowen in the search function to locate a photo. Keith Brayer's spectacular engine modeling talent displayed in his recent OME thread might possibly be comissioned to produce a life like replica for static display in the Matthews launch??
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dijo
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Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The attached picture shows what is thought to be a 1903 Lozier Launch. I would appreciate corroborating info..Lozier Launch
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bartropr
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Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I recently picked up a Lozier "Marine Gas Engine" handbook (23 pages) with an 'Art Nouveau' cover in very good condition here in the UK at a boat jumble -the only clue to help date it is that it is described as "book 10". The engines it covers are single cylinder 1.5, 3,5 and 7.5hp, and double cylinder 10 and 15 hp
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rbprice
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Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Bartropr - that is fantastic! If I were to beg, grovel and promise you my first born son, would you be willing to mail me that so I could reproduce it? I have a reputation for making really great reproductions and returning the original.

If you send me your email address I will send along some photos of a single cylinder Lozier that is in the engine collection @ Mystic, CT so you can make a comparison to the engines in your catalog.

Bob Price [email protected]
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rbprice
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Post Number: 354
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Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Dijo - if you could email me a copy of your photo I will send it along to one of the guys in Ohio who might be able to identify it.

Bob Price [email protected]
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bartropr
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Post Number: 46
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Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Bob,
I will scan a couple of the pages to give you a better idea of what's in it and I will certainly seriously consider your request. The illustrations are very similar to one on the Old Marine Engine site :
New Find - Lozier single cylinder
I am restoring an 18' Truscott launch said to be 1898 - 1900.Do you have any catalogues for these?
Richard Bartrop

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