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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 2313
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Hi Richard..............Just saw this engine on E-Bay. What make do you
think this might be? You can post this on the discussion forum.
Thanks Hicksman

http://cgi.ebay.com/1920-2Cyl-2-Stroke-Marine-Engine_W0QQitemZ110488531529QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b9a13249


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ernie
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Username: ernie

Post Number: 1155
Registered: 01-2002


Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pictures of the other side of the cylinders will help. possibly...
The exhaust manifold is made from pipe fittings so that is possibly not original
Swing handle timer
Doubt it came with the lunk mixer and since it is most likely a 3 port (2 cylinders to a common manifold) a Schlebler should work fine
It does appear that what is here could run with not much more than assembley.
250 and reserve not met ??? but then I squeak when I walk
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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 2314
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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The crankshaft indicates its design was much earlier than 1920's?

I tried to blow up photos, kinda hazy, does it look like there are two fittings on top of each corner of the intake manifold and hole underneath ? maybe two port poppet valves ?

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Five spoke flywheels are fairly rare and I have looked through all my listings with no match.
The water intake fittings above the intake ports are unique.
Needs mains bored !

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ernie
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Username: ernie

Post Number: 1156
Registered: 01-2002


Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard,
Why your comment on the crank? Wondering what I am missing.
As to the intake possibly valves or maybe just a bosses for oilers.
Once again pics of the other side of the cylinders and top view of the manifold will help.
I will go on eBay and ask for more pics. If I get them I will post them.
As to the flywheel with 5 spokes...
Early Palmer in almost all styles and sizes
Mianus
Watkins
Most likely a couple more that escape me right now
If this is a subject worthy of discussion (probally is) lets move it out of here soon so it can be easily found.

Ernie
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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 2316
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Posted on Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Crankshaft Straight no tapered flywheel end and no counter weights - thinking out loud - This seems like earlier design than 1920's ??

I research unknown engs with my data base, typing in "5 spoke" it gives me only 8 mfgrs out of 1721 possibilities , the ones you mentioned I know what they look like plus another two so that only leaves me three options to search, but no match ? alas No Perfection as Yet ?


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jb_castagnos
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Post Number: 503
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 02:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looking at the cylinders the transfer ports are on the front, intake on the side, should be a three port.
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ernie
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Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

More pics here

http://picasaweb.google.com/Alsthe1/MarineEngine#
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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 2318
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Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Thanks Ernie

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ernie
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Username: ernie

Post Number: 1158
Registered: 01-2002


Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My guess is some sort of a Palmer Q clone. There are a ton of similarities
But made by whom?
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jb_castagnos
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Username: jb_castagnos

Post Number: 505
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is a new one to me. The carb ports are on the port side, transfer ports are in the front, I really expected to see the exhaust ports in the rear with a channel leading over to the starboard side, like the Watermans. The exhaust ports are on the starboard side, intake and exhaust ports are 90 degrees apart. I would like to see the top of the piston to see how the deflector is made. I really can't see how this would have been an efficient engine.
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richardday
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Username: richardday

Post Number: 844
Registered: 11-2003


Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have never seen a Palmer con rod with a hinged cap.
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ernie
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Post Number: 1159
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Posted on Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

JB
Plamer has done that on many models B,C,Q,U and S to name a few depending on the year and the top of the piston looks normal like any other 2 stroke.
Dick I said lots of similarities not identical.
Ernie
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richardday
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Post Number: 845
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Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ernie, Thought I was agreeing with you When I first looked it at I thought it did have a lot of Q similarities but soon also realized no way.

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