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brandjes
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Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all,

In our boat there's a Bedford 4-cylinder engine with approx 80HP. Does anyone know where the type/serial number is on these things is as we need to know the date it was manufactured?

Kind regards,
Brandjes
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listerdiesel
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Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If it is indeed a Bedford engine, then it should be the 220cu in 4-cylinder.

Used extensively in their trucks in the UK, it has been out of production for 20+ years.

Further afield, Bedford also rebadged Isuzu engines.

The serial number was stamped on the block at the fron on the LH side of the engine looking from the rear, up by the joint of the block and cylinder head.

Peter
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ERIC BUTLER
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Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

have you got any paper work for timing sequence for bedford 220 cu 4cyl and
installation for fuel injector pump
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andrew
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Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eric,

There is a service manual available for the 220 if you need it...
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listerdiesel
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The 220 and 330 engines used the CAV DPA rotary disributor pump and the timing spline on the pump has a master spline and groove arrangement so you cannot get the pump in wrong. The 300 diesel used an inline pump on some engines.

I don't recall working on any that didn't have this arrangement, but just in case I'll check on the recon pump I have in the workshop and see what that has.

The timing gears have an idler between the crankshaft and injection pump drive, and the whole set of marks on the gears only comes up together every 170 turns (or something like that) so don't take anything apart without getting everything into a good rotational position where you know where the engine is.

Don't turn the engine over while the pump is out!

Peter
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TerryStaley
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is my first real Boat and I'm new at this
and diesels to I'm 45yrs old and
I have a new used 29ft glen-L and 1 of the motors is a Bedford 220, I ran it out of fuel last weekend the tank showed 1/2 but was wrong, so i changed all the fuel filters, but the problum is how do I prime the system for the Bedford my other motor is Perkins and it started up fine, Is there a manual pump or a bleeder screw ? someone told me that i have to bleed each of the injectors by loosing the nuts one at a time witch i've done and I am still doing and how long or many times should this take?
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listerdiesel
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Terry:

If you have a DPA pump (rotary type) then there is a sequence of bleeding that you must use.

Start with locating the hand pump on the side of the block, and then loosen the little bleed valve on the pump body. There may be two of them, one on the very top and one on the side. Do the side one first, loosen the bleed screw and pump until clear fuel comes out with no bubbles. Tighten it up again, then do the top one, tightening up once clear fuel comes through.

Once the pump body is clear of air, the pumping element has to be purged, and the only way to do this is to loosen off two injector pipes at the injector end, and turn the engine over until fuel is seen to be squirting out of the loose joint. Tighten each one up and the engine should fire and pick up.

Because the DPA pump has a single pumping element and no bypass bleed feed like modern engines, it's always a pain to bleed them, but if you do this in sequence you should be OK. When we serviced the Bedford trucks and changed the filter, we always filled the fresh filter up with diesel and usually it would pull the air through without bleeding, but once you get a bubble in the element, you are stuck!

Hope this helps,

Peter
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leo
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i have a macwester b/c sailing boat with a volvo penta md2 eng. where can i get spare parts for the eng. 2nd/hand or not
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high_seas
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Posted on Friday, February 10, 2006 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a 220m Bedford diesel that I'm rebuilding.
Need the following parts.
Exhaust ans intake valves
gasket and seal kit
over size pistons and rings
Crank
injectors and lines
Please contact if you have or know where abouts for these parts.
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listerdiesel
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Bedford spares for the 220cu in truck engine are probably getting scarce on the ground these days, as they have been out of production for 15 or more years.

We have a 220 DPA pump (hydraulic governor) which has been overhauled and possibly an injector or two ditto. As far as engine parts are concerned I will have to check with our local dealer and see what the position is.

The injection pump can be a Simms in-line type with pneumatic governor or the later CAV DPA with Hydraulic governor.

Let me know which pump you have and also the CAV numbers off the injectors.

Peter
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Kelvin
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Posted on Wednesday, May 17, 2006 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi i'm from the Netherlands, and I have a Bedford 330 engine diesel. Who now's where I can find a manual of this engine?
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andrew
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Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We sell manuals for the Beford 330 on the marineengine.com site this link. Shipping to Holland may be somewhat more than the shipping cost shown in the cart because those manuals are large.
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alfs
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Hello everybody!
After my father passed away, I have tried to look at his old boat, which has an engine with a batch saying "Bedford type B1C, s/n 1485".
Anyone having ideas regarding this engine, any documentation/manuals? Where to get spare parts? (I'm living in Norway, so any place in Europe would be best.)

Thanks for helping out!
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ave_maria
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Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a 330 cu. in. GM Bedford (100 hp?) in an old, Canadian mission boat from Vancouver Island. It runs like a charm . . . and I would like to keep it that way. Can anyone recommend a parts supplier for this engine in Canada or USA?
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amha
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Hi i have a Bedford Diesel 330 f/1 straight 6. Does anyonr have the tappet settings for this engine. Also does anyone know where i can get a set of injector heads for the engine.

Thanks amha
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camelot
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We've recently bought a boat fitted with 2 x Ford Lehman 6cy engines with CVA DPA pumps that haven't been run for 20years! Both turn over fine and seem to produce compression. However neither DPA pump will pump fuel either to the bleed screw or injector outlets. One lift pump has been replaced and fuel is present at the injector pump inlet and return line on both engines.
We have been trying to pump/bleed for hours!
Has anyone experience with these pumps as we're clean out of ideas now. The engines are very low hours (circa 100 hours each but probably 30 years old now!)
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richarddurgee
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Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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I have had The CAV DPA injector pumps on the perkins diesels refuse to prime after sitting empty of fuel for many weeks or longer and there is a small screen filter and valve on the inlet side of the pump, the filters will block with old varnished fuel and also stick the valve, a good cleaning may work ??

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larry_from_maryland
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Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree the safty screen can plug. If you are not carefull all the crapp in the screen can fall out the bottem into the pump,don't ask how i know. I like to use a sucker and suck as much stuff out as i can before messing with the valve. there are other things that could be wrong,but try cleaning first.
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rks100
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Hi,
Does anyone know the max rpm of a Bedford 330 5.4 litre engine.

Many Thanks
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woodman527
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I have a Bedford J330 powering a generator set which, after a head gasket change, is blowing oil drops from the exhaust. The new head gasket was found to be 0.2mm thinner around the oil transfer port so was refitted using copper shims and an 'o'ring. It ran clean for about an hour before the oil droplets appeared in the exhaust again. Can anyone provide a clue to this phenomenon and, more importantly, a fix.Thanks.
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oslin04
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Posted on Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 08:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Woodman,
Well as a Marine Engineer I would suggest the head gasket has failed to do the job, and I am not sure the O ring was a good idea as they tend to deform or melt with the heat,and depending where the shims are they might jack the head off the gasket slightly. Can you get the correct gasket for it? or have one made up from solid copper if all else fails, I do not recommend this unless things are desperate, but I do know of engines that have run successfully with two head gaskets fitted, although this is normally done to take up a bowed head.
just a thought :-)
Keith
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Phil Hand
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Trying to find the diesel injector pump drive shaft and coupling for a normally aspirated Bedford 330 diesel with the DPA (CAV/Lucas) fuel pump. The coupling has part number 7133146 etched into its' surface, and the drive shaft (also referred to as a "torsion bar") has no identifying marks on it. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated, thanks.
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ave_maria
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Phil,
Have you tried Carlin America? Tel. 734-422-6660. Web: www.carlin-america.com
I have purchased several spares for my Bedford from this parts supplier.
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Phil Hand
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I am looking for oil seals for a Bedford 330 diesel engine. I got the injector pump rebuilt and when I mounted it back up, I noticed fuel spraying. All three seals are worn. Thanks for any and all help
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malford
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HI GUYS, FIRST TIME USER, AND HOPING ANYBODY KNOWS WHERE TO GET PARTS AND A MANUAL FOR A GM BEDFORD DIESAL MODEL:-OB5. IT IS A INLINE NATURALLY ASPERATED 6 CYLINDER 300 CU IN
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andrew
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Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2011 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Malford,

300 CID or 330 CID ?

See this Bedford Manual page at MarineEngine.com.
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malford
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thanks for answering andrew. It is a GM BEDFORD 300 CU IN. I think the model #OB-5
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malford
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hey guys when I bought my boat it was supposed to have a perkins diesel burner and I now know it has a bedford 300. Could anybody tell me why the mistake between the two?
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larry_from_maryland
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Both made in england and use similar cav parts,just a guess.
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timsanders
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looking for injector pump bedford 220 in a welding machine . or does anyone know what will interchange
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listerdiesel
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Tim Sanders:

<[email protected]>:
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Peter
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need also a GM Bedford diesel 220, Injector pump i think the part number is 3249F760-R on Cav-Lucas style, anyone know of one drop me a line
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Lance Wilson
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Hello,
Can anyone help me.I have a wood chipper driven by a bedford 6 cyclinder diesel Model B5 motor, looking for a fuel injection pump,inline CAV pump AAL6D60/140AGRVWES.DES NUMBER:4719650.Any condition so I can make one from spares.Is there a work shop manual for that model?Any help would be greatly appricated.
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George Geco
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Hi

I need parts for a Bedford b10. Can you guys help.

Thanks
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PAUL GRIFF
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i have a gm bedford marine diesel mod no AO42A100 SERIAL NO..729667/10659 IT IS IN A 44 FT YACHT CAN SOMEONE ID THIS FOR ME AS I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HP IT IS OR ANY SPECS
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Shane Storms
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Good day, I wonder if someone could help with the firing order of my Bedford J330 6 cylinder.
Struggling to find information on the net and any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.
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jb_castagnos
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Posted on Friday, January 09, 2015 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm not familiar with your engine, but the most common firing order for an inline 6 is 153624. If you can see the valves follow them through, it easy to watch as the exhaust closes and intake opens on #1, 1/3 of a turn see which is happening next, 1/3 turn on through.
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nobby
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As above, 153624. Try googling just 330 or 220 if you dig deep enough you'll find some stuff.

Cheers
Nobby
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