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maarten
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Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 05:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I start my MD2, I always have to use my decompression handles.
As the inboard engine is in a wooden crate in the centre of the boat, I always need to lift this engine crate.
I would prefer to start only with a key, and not having to lift the crate. And of course without using the decompression handles.


From friends I understood that an MD2B has this kind of starting method.

Does any one know if the starting parts from an MD2B will fit on an MD2?
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adsum
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Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I used to start my MD2B in the same way before I discovered the cold start device. In that time I had no manual. With the aid of the dynastart the MD2B now starts immediately (even after winterstop) without lifting decompression levers.
I first put the engine speed control in (allmost) full speed position then press down the cold start button on the cover of the fuel injection pump (that sequence is important otherwise the button doesn't stay in cold start position). Lifting decompression levers is only needed with handstart unless you are very strong. To push down the cold start button I allways have to remove the cover (hatch) of the engine room. A MD2 should have a cold start device as well. According to the manual it's not a button but a rod that has to be pressed down. After starting the cold start device is released automatically. In your case it might be possible to make a simple mechanical device for remote pressing down the cold starting control rod from outside the crate.
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matt_morehouse
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Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You guys must live in cold weather country. I kept my boat in San Francisco Bay and never had to use the decompression levers or cold start device. If my battery was up the engine would start after a few turns every time about the same as my truck.

If you don't live in cold country I would suspect other problem(s).
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maarten
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Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the quick responses:
to Adsum; The complete engine is covered under the crate. And as far as I can find there is indeed a fuel rod that brings the fuel into the fuel system quicker than the fuel pomp does. But your idea is not bad, I will give it a try.
To Matt: yes I live in Amsterdam, so mostly between 15 and 25 C degrees when I go out with the boat.
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adsum
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Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's funny, I also live in Amsterdam. But I only use the decompression levers when the hot engine refuses to stop (one of it's bad habbits).
Even in summer with 90 degrees F (32 dgr C) I push the cold start button to achieve an immediate start.
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matt_morehouse
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Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That sounds like SF Bay temps usually between 15 and 27C during sailing season.

Sounds to me you may have low compression have you checked it recently?

If you kill the engine then restart when it is still hot does it fire up immediately without anything more than turning the key?
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maarten
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Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When the engine is nice and warm, a restart with only the keys is no problem. But when it is cold there is too much pressure for the start engine to get the rotations going.
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matt_morehouse
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Posted on Monday, April 26, 2010 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Using the decomp levers is not a good idea to stop a running engine. I'm surprised you haven't run a valve into the top of a piston causing catastrophic damage.

To stop an engine that doesn't want to, wad up a large rag and place it over the intake. This will also stop a runaway engine. Just be sure to use large rag(s) so they don't get sucked into the engine.

When an engine won't shut down at low throttle and keeps dieseling it is an indication that a decoke job is in order.
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gaurdian101
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Posted on Monday, September 06, 2010 - 12:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just got a really nice great shape volvo penta md2 and I want to put it in my fishing boat that has a 351w engine with an omc out drive can this md2 push this boat at all I know it's going to be alot slower but the fuel has to be better than my 2 miles per gal
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matt_morehouse
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How much does your boat weigh?


The MD2 only makes 15.5hp. and a lot of that would be comsumed in the outdrive. I would think you would get no more than a few knots in dead calm water. I suppose it would be OK on a protected inland waterway but I wouldn't want to use it on a river, large lake, or the ocean.
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gaurdian101
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ya I know that's why I'm looking for a 4 cyl engine the boat weighs about 4500 pounds the boat has a gas engine in it know and it like to drink alot so that's why I want the diesel got this one but thinks it's to small but love the sound of it.
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matt_morehouse
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You might sell the 2B and put the money toward a bigger diesel. If it is in really great shape I might be interested.

It is going to be a lot of work to do the conversion.
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gaurdian101
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 12:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yup it's going up for sale in mid oct putting the money up for something newer and bigger the conversion is not so bad I have a machine shop that can make about anything
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gaurdian101
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Posted on Tuesday, September 07, 2010 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

does anyone know what a good running md2 goes for. the owner had it rebiult and it runs great needs some paint but works great on ebay they have one for 2500$ is that asking to much for these old diesels.

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