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james e. mcgrath
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Username: jim

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Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

several years ago I bought a 5hp 2 cylinder buffalo (serial number 149) with curved spoke flywheel and gave it to a friend to restore. He did all the hard stuff (new babbit, cleaning and painting, etc) and was ready to re-assemble it when he died.

Recently, I collected all the finished parts and with help from your website and Andrew have now pretty much dry-fitted it so I can see what the tasks are.

Unfortunately, one key piece is missing and must be fabricated: the cams that fit on the shaft (have that) and the rockers (think that's what they are called) that roll over them and intersect the valves.

Does anybody possibly have these parts either for sale or just as good to lend to me for duplicating? I'd be happy to compensate someone for this. As another way to go, does anyone have any specs I could give to a machine shop?

I would deeply appreciate the help and can be reached at 617-361-6703 or thru this posting.

A couple other questions: what color was this engine originally? What spark plugs would I use? And, where could I get info on tolerances and clearances like crankshaft and valves, or are there any simple guidelines?

I would most appreciate any guidance.

jim mcgrath
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foxman
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I also have a 2 cylinder buffalo engine with the curved spoke flywheel. I think mine (#214) is 1903 or 1904 do you know what year yours is? I don't lend parts but I will try to see if I can get the specs for the cam. This may take a while as It is hard to get to in the winter. Colour scheme is garish, head is silver, base is gloss black with the aluminum access plates left natural.
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Andrew Menkart
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Post Number: 1353
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Below is a catalog picture of the 5HP engine. They did a nice job with catalog illustrations in those days!

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Andrew Menkart
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Post Number: 1354
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Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The above engine is the "make'n'break" version... Jim's engine is spark plug ignition.
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james e. mcgrath
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Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Foxman: thanks for the information on the color. mine is number 149, and I was originally told by the fellow who found it for me and later died that it was 1905 (he thought, but was not certain). based on looking at pics and now chatting with others via phone, my stronger guess is that its earlier, probably 1901-1903 latest. Mine was originally and definitely make and break before spark plugs, which I'm told were offered as a conversion kit to earlier buyers. I intend to get literature from Andrew that may help pin this down. If we knew the year the spoked flywheel ended, that would help. Or the year make and break changed over.Or if we could find out the year they started making this model, and pin a later number to a year, we could interpolate it along some supposed rising production curve. I'll keep trying as I move forward. And report back. I would very much like to get the specs. Also, my original pistons and rings are in fully usable shape even though the restorer made new ones, and I would swap them for the ablity to borrow one lobe set and one cam roller, which I'd then return while you kept my usable parts. Let me know. Many thanks. jim mcgrath
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Martin Lilius
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Posted on Monday, March 03, 2008 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can anybody identify these engines. The photos are taken around 1913 - 1918

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