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RichardDurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 3540
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2015 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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J.B. Castagnos
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Post Number: 1039
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Friday, March 06, 2015 - 06:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The gear on the Union uses a bevel gear like this, but it has a band to lock it for reverse instead of the double clutch arrangement this one uses. I can't say it's quiet, even with no load you wouldn't need a backup alarm. One advantage is it is one to one in reverse.
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Andrew Munns
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Post Number: 128
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Posted on Friday, March 06, 2015 - 06:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Overhauled a Union box once as old one was damaged through wear + corrosion. Fitted new stock bevel gears to hubs and result was good. Straight cut gears will never be quiet and the technology is nowhere near what you see inside a modern gearbox or car diff.

Have you seen http://www.boatregister.net/Library/MaritimeHistory_Engines&propulsion.html

Lists 2 Union catalogues thanks to local historian Mori Flapan
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RichardDurgee
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J.B. Castagnos
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Username: jb_castagnos

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Posted on Friday, March 06, 2015 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's the Union gear, bevel gears and a band for reverse, forward is an internal brake shoe. Andrew, took a quick look at the site you linked, thanks, saw the 1907 Union catalog. The 8HP is the closest to mine I've seen. I have a 1905 catalog that had a different carb and throttle. The 07 catalog says Oakland, my tag says San Francisco, the factory burnt in the 06 earthquake, they moved to Oakland, guessing my engine is an 06.

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