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Michael
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Registered: 11-2011
Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi, I have a master pup and have been using the kero oil mix to lubricate the clutch as stated in the manual. Whenever I do this it makes one heck of a mess I.E. oil mix slings out where the prop shaft goes into the clutch. Am I doing something wrong or is there a better product I can be using that does not sling out?
Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Michael
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Greg Y
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Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They're an oily engine at the best of times. I was using straight chainsaw bar-oil at one stage, which has great cling properties. As it soon started to dehydrate and subsequently 'drag the clutch' I would then use literally 1 or 2 drips of kero from a sewing machine oil bottle, onto the clutch which would immediately stop the oil-drag.
I remember on a couple of occasions taking advantage of the oil-dragging clutch to achieve a dead-slow ahead propulsion with steerage, while waiting at the start-line of events, with the bow into the current or winnd. Later when needing a true neutral, would drip another spot of kero.

maybe try aerosol chain lube too, as its designed not to throw??
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Laurie Derwent
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Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gentlemen, This is not something about which I profess any expertise. My Blaxland gets far too little use to suggest any details of the frequency of clutch lubrication required but I have always used 90 grade (gearbox) oil with just two or three drops at most if the clutch gets 'sticky'. I'm sure the experts can assist.
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Michael
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Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Greg and Laurie, I was thinking of adding some Moreys Oil Stabiliser into the mix. If any of you have been in a bearing shop they often have a perspex display with crank handle and gears and it demonstrates how the stabiliser makes the oil stay on what it is supposed to be lubricating. It's not actually sticky just seems to cling somehow.
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Laurie Derwent
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Posted on Friday, November 18, 2011 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael, Morey's could work. 90 grade oil acts similarly and whatever you use you shouldn't need so much that it runs out of the back of the clutch.
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Michael
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Posted on Friday, November 18, 2011 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks again Laurie, will experiment
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Ross Butler
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Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I take it that this discussion relates to the disc clutch activated by fingers. I am currently replacing mine with the enclosed type containing the split and expanding sleeve. My question is should this clutch be lubricated. There is provision for oiling the components that slide on the shafts but is there any requirement for lubrication within the housing. When dismantling to rebush there appeared to be grease within the housing. Help would be appreciated.
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Todd Vidgen
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Post Number: 220
Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ross They are talking about the cone clutch which
you are about to instal .
I have a finger clutch in one of my boats,and
I like the way you can "slip" the clutch and ease
up to wharves,moorings etc. Its bit harder with
the cone type ,as by their nature they tend to drive
themselves into gear.
A tip for those who have boats on moorings with the cone type is to leave them in gear when not in use, as marine growth on the prop shaft does not grow on the part of the shaft that slides in
and out of the stern gland and rip up the gland packing.
As Greg mentioned earlier they all throw oil and
gunk. Its just the nature of the beast.
I use a product from Wurth called HSS2000 on my
finger clutch,water pump and maggy drive,it doesn't throw and I dont have to keep lubing it
all the time
Cheers,Todd
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Michael
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Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2012 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the tip Todd, my mates son works for Wurth so I will get hold of some.
Hooroo Michael
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quinton wilkinson
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Registered: 08-2009
Posted on Monday, January 30, 2012 - 12:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can anyone suggest where I can buy a finger clutch for my Baxland Twin.
Also are there any Blaxland owners in Victoria so we could meet up

Quinton
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brian brown
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Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 02:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

can anyone tell me why my clutch won,t engage i have a twin pup and its getting worse and i dont kwow what sort of clutch it is ive had it for 1 year now and have had nothing but problems ive sent the carby up to boyd myers on the central coast and he fixed that. the maggy is perfect. the motor is running great.Now it wont go into drive and im sitting out in the port hacking like a stranded duck it eventually goes into gear after much drama.the last time i lubed ti i put in kero and sawing machine oil and i think i over did it .cheers guys
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Greg Y
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Posted on Saturday, March 17, 2012 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I doubt you can over-do it with oil.
If it is a cone clutch it looks like an enclosed barrel; maybe [as a quick stab in the dark] if the prop shaft is a bit short - the prop can rub against the outboard gland, preventing the clutch cone sliding forward & engaging!??
If it is a finger-clutch there will be 2/pair of adj screws with lock-nuts, these may need tightening a Little [ when in gear with engine stopped]
Let us know which clutch type you think you have.
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Allen Flux
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Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 06:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When you force the clutch leaver forward, the wedge expands the clutch ring for friction. The clutch wears out eventually.You can buildup the edges with braze to cause the wedge to expand it more .


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Allen Flux
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Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 06:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This type of is easy to see what's going on.


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quinton wilkinson
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Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

TODD

WHERE CAN YOU BUY THE WURTHS HSS 2000

QUINTON
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Todd Vidgen
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Registered: 03-2008
Posted on Sunday, March 18, 2012 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Quinton,I stock it

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