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Jim Parrott
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Monday, August 01, 2011 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Posting for Nelson K. Any information on this engine would be appreciated.
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Jim Parrott
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Post Number: 21
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Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Resized another pic and found the Brooks/DuBrie/Gray post below. Any opinions on make, hp, and timer.
http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/1/1594.html

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Ernie
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Username: ernie

Post Number: 1387
Registered: 01-2002


Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 07:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Brooks-Early Gray-DuBrie would be my best guess
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RichardDurgee
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Post Number: 2657
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Interesting repair to the top of the cylinder, looks to have been a three way crack from spark plug hole and plug repositioned at side, cracked like that probably caused by water freezing ??

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RichardDurgee
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Post Number: 2658
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Looked at all my photos of this style DuBrie engine and all have spark plug in center of cyl, but possible that this is another mfgr using DuBrie design and the engine above was mfgd with spark plug on side ? ( Would be pretty good machine work to remake spark plug hole in headless engine ) water fitting in center ?
anyone seen a Dubrie with a rotary timer ? all photos here have the Tuttle oscillating timer ??

dbrie


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RichardDurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 2659
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Tuesday, August 02, 2011 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Brooks


brooks

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Ernie
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Username: ernie

Post Number: 1391
Registered: 01-2002


Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2011 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The timer looks pretty original and is the only difference. Everything else including the Essex vaporizer with external float bowl are the same. I think your earlier suggestion that the plug was moved during crack repair is most likely the right answer. Also lets NOT start calling it a Tuttle timer as lots of others used that style. Bell Isle for one.
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RichardDurgee
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Post Number: 2660
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2011 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Yes several engine mfgrs used this unique Oscillating Timer, I researched it several yrs ago when I acquired a Tuttle Twin.

This is the original Patent applied for 1902 issued 1904 #755817


http://www.google.com/patents?id=ueVcAAAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=755817&source=gbs_selected_pages&cad=1#v=onepage&q&f=false

Found info that Tuttle sold rights to several Companies to use the design as early as 1905.

1.The Dubrie designed engs- Brooks etc in above photos.

2. Dick & Barbara Days Very nice Belle Isle

belosc

3.Grasser

grosc

4.Rialto

riosc

5.Tuttle twin that perked my curiosity about the oscillating Timers

Tutosc

There are probably other mfgrs that used this timer these were the ones in my list !

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Ernie
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Username: ernie

Post Number: 1392
Registered: 01-2002


Posted on Wednesday, August 03, 2011 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard,
Quote from above
"There are probably other mfgrs that used this timer these were the ones in my list"


My point exactly this style no matter who did or did not patent it does not necessarily make it a Tuttle

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