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Ernie
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2003 - 08:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

" If anyone could help me identify this two cycle marine engine it would be greatly appreciated." Here are some pictures.
Jeff Fay
Gilford, NH

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Ernie
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2003 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

By the way I don't know what it is.
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Keith
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2003 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does it look like someone just screwed parts into existing holes? The location of the carb seems weird. Can't make out the transfer ports from the pictures.
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J.B. Castagnos
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2003 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think the carb is in the correct location, it's a three port, looking from the flywheel side the transfer port is on the right, the exhaust on the left.
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richarddurgee
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2003 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A picture of the other side and rear might help!
Waterpump configurations are usually helpful but no pump on this one, don't see any mounting arrangement for a pump. Is that black piece on output shaft a shaft coupling flange or an eccentric, or ?? can't think of another eng with
carb facing directly aft ??
Are those square headed bolts holding exhaust flange to block ??.
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richarddurgee
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2003 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

After I posted above, I remembered an aft carbed eng! This one is in The Mariners Museum in Newport News, VA. The pics aren't so good the eng is mounted in a launch in their display area, they were kind enough to let me into roped off area to take pics. Great Museum and very helpful staff.
Dick Day has seen this eng, he suggested several yrs ago that they have a very old Lathrop on display there, I think it's one of the oldest yet( anyone want a pic of it i will post it )Thats how I came to take these photos of the DeMooy.

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Richard Day
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2003 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bernie Denny and I have worked on that DeMooy and have come up with nothing. My wife and I went to the patent office and a little old lady who had been there since Abe Lincoln was so interested in what my wife and I were looking for took us into some back rooms where the very early volumes are kept and we finally found out back in about 1878 DeMooy Bros. made kerosene paint, glue and water heaters. We found some DeMooy data on about 1900 involving reverse gears but nothing on the engines. Will see if I can locate what we did come up with. Bernie wrote letters to the hometown library and got an answer back as I recall that gave up nothing. I forget where the home town was. The earliest know DeMooy engine cuts look like the typical 2 stroke of about 1903.
Bernie and I couldn't really figure out all the strange levers and valves on the Demooy in the Museum. The old Lathrop was in the engine storage area not on public display as I remember it.
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richarddurgee
Posted on Saturday, December 20, 2003 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The gear behind the DeMooy, its an old one !


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Ernie
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2003 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

by the way Jeff nice restoration!
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richarddurgee
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2003 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dick, you remember correctly, I recall now having to get someone to take me into storage to get these pics !


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Tom Stranko
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2003 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

These two images to follow are both from a 1908 Power Boating magazine (DeMooy)
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Tom Stranko
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2003 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

demooy
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Tom Stranko
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2003 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

demooyR
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Tom Stranko
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2003 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

demooy2
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richarddurgee
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2003 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This ad is 1908, building marine engines for 18 years -- 1890---- ????


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richarddurgee
Posted on Sunday, December 21, 2003 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is same 1908, an article on Demooys new eng,
so this style is 1908 or later !

1908

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