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Louise Saint-Pierre
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Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2015 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello,
I am doing a research for a museum.They have some unidentified marine engines.In the donation contract, the blue one is said to be a Islen (circa 1900). I think there was a mispelling. I did research and found no company under this name.
The second one (green) was made by Continental Motor MFG, Michigan (no 6084, type B Date:12-8-13)
On the top the name Coldwell appears. Continental made motors for other companies, but I have no infos on Coldwell (1920?).
It would be very helpfull if you could give me any infos on those 2 marine engines.
Thanks

Islen ?Islen ??Coldwell
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Ernie
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Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2015 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The blue one is a 4 HP Acadia.
Not sure of the production start date but they were made into the late 70,s and possibly early 80's. I have a single and twin from about 1976
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Searcher
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Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2015 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree that it is an Acadia built in Bridgewater, Nova Scotia. Quite a bit of information on this site about the Acadia. Just type Acadia into the search box.

I have two original Acadia sales flyers, one for the 5 and 6hp single cylinder engines and one for the 8 and 10hp two cylinder engines. Somebody on this site probably has a flyer or catalog for the 3 and 4hp Acadia engines like yours. I can send you a copy of these two if you want them. I also have a copy of a copy of a manual that provides the recommended starting procedure, trouble shooting, and a parts list for two cycle Acadias like yours.
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Ernie
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2015 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is the cover for a 3 and 4 HP Acadia sales brochure.

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Ernie
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2015 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The rest of it





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Louise Saint-Pierre
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2015 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We were all wrong...Thanks for the answer. I will post a message on the Acadia forum to see if somebody has the sales flyers for this model. One more question, on what type of boat do they use it?
Thanks again.
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Louise Saint-Pierre
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2015 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great! Thank you very much Ernie.It is a real good start for my research!

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Ernie
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2015 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As Searcher said just put Acadia in the search at the top. There is a ton of info here including boat info.
Glad to help
Ernie
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RichardDurgee
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2015 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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The Continental Motor


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Looking at this engine and the position of the controls, the pulley on the out put shaft and what looks to be a stub shaft of some sort above it, the exhaust manifold design and with the name
"Coldwell" This may be the application ?


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Coldwell was at this time the largest lawnmower manufacturer in the world with over 150 models available !


This is not the exact engine as the Continental
but its mounting is very much like it would be ?


Ceng

Not sure of this, only my opinion as to a possible direction of search !



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Louise Saint-Pierre
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2015 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is pretty weird! The only Coldwell company I found was this one. This engine was given to the museum as a marine engine (we are a maritime museum).Would it be possible to modify it into a marine engine?
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RichardDurgee
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2015 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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The water hose into the exhaust, and output shaft coupling would indicate that it may have been converted to marine use ?


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Ernie
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2015 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I really want to mow grass in a suit and tie with the exhaust manifold right in front of me on what was most likely already a hot day.
The fancy legs on the seat are neat
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RichardDurgee
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Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2015 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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This is one of my lawn mowers, bush hog attached to the three point on my 40 year old Oliver !

Rare photo caught me without a suit and tie on while mowing !


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Louise Saint-Pierre
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Jim Ricci
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Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2018 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Louise, the green motor was definitely used in a Coldwell Style D 40" width of cut power lawn mower.
Current knowledge would suggest that the motor in the advertisement posted above may be a Lackawanna from the time period when that company was owned by Coldwell. After the Lackawanna Division was sold off circa 1912 Coldwell switched to a Continental Type B motor for the time period circa 1912 to circa 1915. Your images show the motor as it appears in the lawn mower. That said it certainly could have been used in someone's boat. In fact Mr. Coldwell owned several large motor boats.
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miro forest
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Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2018 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The motor mount below the crankcase is not typical of a marine motor although some very early engines ( arounf 1900) used that configuration.
Most marine engines have the mounting arrangement in line with the crank shaft in order to lower the height of the installation is the boat.
Also, there needs to be some sort of thrust bearing to absorb the thrust of the propeller - maybe it was attached to a FNR gear box that had the thrust bearing .

But the arrangement of the cooling water output definitely indicates a marine installation.

MIro

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