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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 1706
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Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 07:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Sneckner Marine Engine 1903


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ernie
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Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 03:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And...where is a pic of yours?
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richarddurgee
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With the mount flange below the crankshaft I believe its older than the one above ?


S2

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ernie
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Posted on Monday, June 09, 2008 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yup I agree
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john_archibald
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As time went on I think the two plates at the end of the crankcase was the more advanced design. The split crankcase, sealed by virtue of the close fitting babbitt bearing halves, became a design of the past. Yes, some folks never changed it, ( Acadia to mention one) but modern engines do not use this scheme of sealing the crankcase.

In short, I would venture to say that the engine in the bottom picture of the two above is newer than the engine in the top picture.

Any takers with my reasoning?

Archibald

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jb_castagnos
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Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

John, I don't think that was a set rule. Bob Legnon's 1 1/2hp Lockwood Ash is an early engine, it's the only L-A I've ever seen with the bell end on the crankcase, all the rest were split. They advertised the split case as a better design, able to adjust for wear.
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jb_castagnos
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Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard, thanks for the ad's, interesting reading. Did you aquire "new" 1903 material or are you going through exixting stuff.
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richardday
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Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A real advantage of the split crankcase along the shaft line was the ability to rebabit the bearings without the problem of getting the flywheel off after years of rusting in salt water. I have a two cylinder St. Lawrence which is stuck and to make matters worse the pistons are at the top and bottom of the stroke. One day I will have to try to solve the problem but not today its too hot.
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richarddurgee
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Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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J.B. Just going through the existing info--
I Start researching something and get fascinated every time by the other interesting stuff- I know most of the readers here like it also so I just post a few old ads and articles helps stir up interest & conversation, keeps it on track as an old inboard marine site.Glad you liked them !

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richarddurgee
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Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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This is the oldest Sneckner photo ad I can find its 1901 and by the Sneckner Motor Co. different than its ties with Stamford Motor Co. as in above 1903 ad ( Notice the phone number in 1901 ? )

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this engine has a removable head that was earlier technology, by 1903 they figured out how to cast the complicated Headless castings ! My engine above may not be A Sneckner the base mount below the crankshaft with the headless cylinder doesn't seem a logical technological progression for this engine??
The Timerbox on the top of the cylinder with rod driven off the crank is the only other one I've ever seen, C.C. Riotte the great engine man that brought about the Standard Marine Engine Co first designed and built a four stroke marine engine in 1898 and 99 that had that same timerbox but his ads claimed the engine did not need a battery and coil to run so it must be a small magneto ?--- anyone ever seen one of these ?? I'll post the Riotte ad.

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richarddurgee
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Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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C.C. Riotte EMPIRE Marine Engine 1898

Would like any information on this ignition ?

cc98

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scott_n
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 02-2008
Posted on Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard I know I don't pipe in much but enjoy reading something new when I log on Thant's Scott
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teresa
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Posted on Saturday, January 31, 2015 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

love to see the pictures from my Great Grand Father Frank Sneckner

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