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gmad
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Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2014 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have an old inboard marine engine that is one cylinder, 30 in tall with a 15 in. flywheel. It is super heavy ..200 lbs? plaque says American Engine Company, Detroit MI. Model number ED 29. Not sure if the picture uploaded. I can't find any history on it to find parts or even how old it is. Anyone ever seen one? Thanks
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ernie
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Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2014 - 07:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

e-mail me the pic and I will upload it for you if you want
Ernie
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gmad
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Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 12:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Ernie: I sent some pics to your yahoo account
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ernie
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Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gary's Pics
Looks like a nice one




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johnny
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Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I do not know much about the American Engine Co. but I think there is a very good possibility that the Caille Perfection Motor Co. manufactured these engines for the American Engine Co. which may have been a Jobber Company. Meaning that the company would purchase engines from other manufacturing companies re tag the engines and sell them. Compare the photos of these Caille engines to the American Engine.

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johnny
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Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

More Caille to compare.



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johnny
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Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you look real close it looks like the casting letters & numbers on the cylinder jacket are the same on the American & Caille.





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richarddurgee
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Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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1912 ad

Very cool Eagle Emblem


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johnny
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Posted on Monday, June 16, 2014 - 11:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gmad,

Nice looking old Detroit American engine you have there. Going by the Caille engine catalogs looking at the same style engine it looks like it is probably a 1912 model engine. The number on the side of the cylinder is a casting number not a model number. If you look you will probably find some other raised casting letters & numbers on other parts of the engine. There may be a serial number to your engine stamped in your engine inspection cover. Your may have to clean or even sand the small rectangle spot on the cover to see it.

John Davis
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gmad
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Hi Johnny and Ernie:
John I think you are right...the second pic looks just like it and it has the same model number....I did not see an eagle on it. Looks like I am missing the carb and a few other parts to get it going. Guess its not as rare as I thought but maybe its a rare labeling. I am wondering how to recondition it so I do not devalue it...should I repaint or leave as is?
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ernie
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Gary,
I have a carb.
Just clean it carefully and see what it looks like. From your pics there seems to be paint on it.
To clean it use a gentle cleaner ar first to make sure you don't remove existing paint. Maybe Simple Green possibly ending up at 100% strength.
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johnny
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I believe this is the gentleman's name (Bud Tierney) that had a little history info on the American Engine Co. and was trying to gather more. I could not find his post here on the forum.

Richard may have some info on this company?
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richarddurgee
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Posted on Tuesday, June 17, 2014 - 07:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Nothing set in stone just some notes
on this company !

Earliest mention is in December 1911

Several ads 1912-1915

Still in 1916 marine engine index

GMAD's engine above has the street fitting at the
bottom front of cylinder for an oiler-- so I agree with Johnny that 1912 is a very close mfg year !
Not many of these around, this one was at Calvert 2008

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