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richarddurgee
Posted on Saturday, February 01, 2003 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This marine engine maker was in Syracuse N.Y. untill 1911 then moved to Schenectady N.Y. They made engs from 1 to 80 Hp, from 1 to 6 cylinders.
The 1 Hp was a canoe engine by the Trade name
"Brownie'. Don't find ads in old publications and
none of these old timers are in marine museum
inventories ? Any one have any info ???
Thanks Richard
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andrew
Posted on Saturday, February 01, 2003 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard,
I have one of the 2HP models, I think you saw it at Calvert a couple of years ago. I also saw some pictures recently of a larger BF Brown single cylinder engine.
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andrew
Posted on Saturday, February 01, 2003 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard,
Also... they did run ads in THE RUDDER in the 1910-11 period.
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richarddurgee
Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andrew,
Thanks for remembering for me and the catalog information. this is a port side pcture taken
at calvert 1. Not a lot of info around on this
Maker anyone know when they ceased production?


brown
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andrew
Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard,

I have a 1974 letter from the Schenectady County Public Library regarding some research they did on the B.F. Brown Gas Engine Company. It indicates that the company did not appear in directories after 1913. I have scanned the letter into Adobe Acrobat, but it has become a very large file and I am not sure how to "optimize" to reduce the file size in Adobe (if anyone else know, please tell me). I will email the letter to you, and can email to anyone else that wants it.

Also, my engine nameplate contains:

BROWNIE
MANUFACTURED BY
THE B.F. BROWN GAS ENGINE CO
520 SCHENECTADY, N.Y. HP 2


The 520 is stamped in as the serial number.

Regards,
Andrew
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Ernie
Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Love the inlet megaphone! Does that get it up to 2.1 hp?
hehehehhe
Ernie
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andrew
Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Probably good for sucking in additional water.... !!!!

Also... Bruce Hall might have some more info on the company.
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richarddurgee
Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andrew,
The e-mail letter came through just fine, with
cable connection it took all of a second or two to
come in. Thanks
The illustration above of the type 2, shows removable heads,and from the oiling instructions
would probably date it 1909-1910?how about those
cool primer cup spark plugs !

Seems manufacturing trend in those days was from head type to headless,wonder if your headless
was one of the last ones made 1911-1912??
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bruce
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Post Number: 183
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just received a copy of December 2,1909 Post Standard,Syracuse NY article from a friend researching B F Brown engine co. with the Syracuse NY central library. Header states: Large Demand For Engines. New Brown Co. working nights to fill orders. The B F Brown Gas Engine Co. which was recently incorporated with a capital of $50,000.Factory has been established on the third floor of the Hall and McChesney building at South Franklin and Walton Streets.( 402 South Franklin st.) The plant is being operated at capacity ... men are working until 9 o'clock every night( to fill orders). Howard Gardenier Secretary Treasurer;and RPI graduate came from Chicago. B F Brown is the General Manager. The Directors include H T, H G and C A Hull Jr. from Morristown NJ.and George Cory of New York.An additional clipping dated Feb. 23, 1910 states Mr Brown was in charge of the companies large display at the NYC boat show and the company had exibited at the Boston Boat Show earlier in the year. Charles Barber (Barber Brothers Engine Co) had attended the NYC show but had not displaed engines. H J Leighton and P H Brennan saying that business was too brisk at their respective engine firms to commit to a NYC show display as did John Sweet of the Straightline Engine Company.. all of Syracuse NY
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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 1830
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Posted on Friday, October 03, 2008 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Bruce

Good stuff I appreciate the post,
Do you have any info on Staightline Engine Co ??

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bruce
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Post Number: 184
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Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2008 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll look- I think they built steam early and used for power generation- will have to look to my notes. John Sweet was the early expert in engine trade in Syracuse....
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richarddurgee
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Wondering if they mfgd any inboard gas marine engs ? should I ad them to my list ??

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thomas
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Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a 1911 BF Brown catalogue. I will scan some of the engines but I just can't do much right now. Here is the "canoe motor" small twin
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thomas
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1911 Canoe motor
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thomas
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Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Three cyl Brown
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thomas
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Three Cyl carb side (wish I had one of these!!)
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thomas
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B model twin stbd side & port side
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thomas
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thomas
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Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

six cylinder
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thomas
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Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2008 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CANOE SINGLE

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