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peter ogborne
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 04:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone have any info on the Tasman Engine ?
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Rick Blaine
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 04:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

a friend of Len's has one... Wellington Wells well he says it is.. I think what he has is a 4hp Penguin...
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Steve Green
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 07:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HI PETER. Just been looking through some Seacraft books . Have some adds showing 3hp
TASMAN . by tasman engineering co ,Arncliffe,
N.S.W. , dated 1947 . let me know if you want a copy emailed ... STEVE
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peter ogborne
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 07:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Steve ......I was out at Bob Baileys today,gave him another jack for his collection .
I found a Tasman engine on his scrapheap, in a bad way but restorable. Very badly cracked water jacket but i reckon i can fix that. It has a magneto that is mounted at right angles to the crankshaft . Bob thinks he has the magneto somewhere. If you have a picture it would help.
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Tim Mulvey
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We have a 4HP Tasman in very good condition at the Australian Heritage Fleet Museum in Sydney (Australia)- its just missing the magneto.

Based on ads and other info in the Seacraft magazine, in the late 1940's Tasman marine engines were available in two versions of the single cyliner model - 4.5HP "medium duty" model and a 3 HP Tasman Cub. Also, in the twin cylinder models there was a 5-7HP Tiger and the 7-9 HP Super Tiger. The firm also supplied 4 & 6 cylinder versions up to 40HP. Thy were manufactured by Tasman Marine Products, Sydney and distributed Australia-wide.

But this info does not explain where the 4HP version that we have fits in. It has "Tasman HP) cast into the detachable head.

Unfortunately, I do not have a photo of this engine to post.

The Museum would appreciate any info - you can contact me about how to send it to the Museum.
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Tim Mulvey
Posted on Sunday, March 23, 2003 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Correcting a typo. It has "Tasman 4HP" cast into the detachable head.

PS: This is one of the engines that we plan to take to display days eg next Wooden Boat Festival in Sydney etc.
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marks
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 01:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Peter,

My meagre amount of info on Tasman is:

1) Operated from 1937 till 1966.

2) Intially were at 191 Elizabeth st Waterloo and later at 37 Peakhurst rd Carlton where they operated under the name of Davis Engineering.

Steve an email copy of your Arncliffe add would be nice.

They initially made four models as per Tim.

Davis Engineering states two models being 3HP and 4HP units. They had detachable heads whilst the earlier models didn't.

The detachable head models had Tasman and the HP cast onto the top.

The eralier models had the mag drive in line with the crank whilst the models from Davis Engineering were driven at right angles from the back of the engine(not the flywheel end).

Best regards

Mark S
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Len Tate
Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 04:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all,
Is a "Tasman" from the same stable as a "Penguin"? They have a lot in common.
A friend of mine, who corresponds on this page under various nomes de plume (pardon my dismal French) has or had a very original example of the "Penguin" single in unused condition.
Perhaps a picture, Sydney?
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Chips Raferty
Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have just spoken to the font of knowledge regarding these engines... He tells me that infact a 4hp Penguin & a 4 hp Tasman were both made by Davis Engineering so from this we can deduce that though they were marketed by Penguin and Tasman they are essentially the same engine. Now I have a question... has anyone any information re the Erskine 6hp Diesel also made at Arncliffe by Davis and i'm told looks similar to a 4 stroke Penguin....( for want of a better description). I would also like to know the manufacturer of an elderly open crankcase 4 stroke with Casley, Williamstown cast into it... Ok its a Casley( never heard of it) made at Williamstown presumably near melbourne. It looks like the type of engine one should convince saddam to use in an enclosed space.....I have asked the owner for a pic...
As to your french Len you may be right it may be nomes d' plume but if it is french then it may have gender, implied or explicit, so it may be nome d' plumes. How about I just protect my real identity by using aliases? After all being a (forceably) retired top secret government agent I dont want any fundamentalist bureaucrats after me...
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peter ogborne
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Steve Green was kind enough to give me a magneto ,a Lucas with a helical gear attached .Unfortunately the pitch of this gear does not match the one fitted to the crank . Still hoping to match up a couple of Chapman gears . What i dont have is a clear picture of how the magneto is mounted ....does it have some sort of gear case ?
My Tasman must be an early model ,it does not have a detachable head but it does have TASMAN cast into the barrel. At the moment it is still sitting in that mixture of bread and mollasses.
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Ernie
Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter dont' let the cat get into it! Has anyone tried "Evapo-Rust? Saw an add in Gas Engine Magazine.
Have a good one
Ernie
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marks
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 02:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Peter,

The pictures I have show the early models from Waterloo do not have a detachable head. The power drive is at the flywheel end with the mag driven in line off the other end of the crank.

The later models with the detachable head are the same configuration but the mag is driven at 90 degrees, like the Blaxlands.


I will try and get you a photo of both types.

Best regards

Mark S
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Tim Mulvey
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 06:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark - Don't forget to bring your camera on your Australian Heritage Fleet Museum trip for a picture of a later model in exc cond but no magneto.
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marks
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter,

I stand corrected. Here is a page with pictures of a late model unit with the detachable head and also has an inline mag.

/link{http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Andes/7605/tasman.htm,tasman}

The other photo I have is an early model with the the non detachable head. It also has an inline mag.

The adds for the later models have the 90 degree mag but do not show the mounting arrangement. I will ask around though.

Best regards

Mark S.
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marks
Posted on Monday, June 02, 2003 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter,

I stand corrected. Here is a page with pictures of a late model unit with the detachable head and also has an inline mag.

/link{http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Andes/7605/tasman.htm}

The other photo I have is an early model with the the non detachable head. It also has an inline mag.

The adds for the later models have the 90 degree mag but do not show the mounting arrangement. I will ask around though.

Best regards

Mark S.
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peter ogborne
Posted on Friday, June 06, 2003 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark .........I am trying to find someone who has access to a single cylinder Tasman . I would like to get a '' rubbing '' of the name plate if possible ,ie the brass name plate ....did they have one ?
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Tim Mulvey
Posted on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 06:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter,

See the current edition of The Old Machinery Magazine. A guy named Serge wants to swap or sell about 10 marine and stationery engines for approx AUD$2500. This lot includes 3 marine engines - one a Tasman. You could also ring him.

Our Tasman at the Museum is a 4HP model with detachable head - apparently you meniuoned in an earlier message that you have an earlier model - blind head.

Do you still want a rubbing of our engine plate?
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peter ogborne
Posted on Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 07:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes please Tim .
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andrew
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Photo from Peter Ogborne, see the next frame below:
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andrew
Posted on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tasman
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