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Heinz Wahl
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2002 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have located a Fairbanks Morse 3HP 450 RPM engine in about 70ft of water I believe it was part of a wreck that went down in the early 1900's In order to correctly identify the wreck I need to be certian that this engine was purchased for it. There was no serial number on the plate of the engine but the division of Fairbanks Morse was in Canada. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Heinz
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bill
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2002 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what do you need to know?
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andrew
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2002 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Heinz,

There is a lot of historical information available on the Fairbanks Morse company. As you probably know they built windmills in the late 1800's and then built engines.... farm engines, stationary engines, marine engines, large diesels, submarine engines, gen sets, etc., etc. They are still in business supplying large diesel engines and parts.

For historical information on the company you could start with a book written by C.H. Wendal called A History of Fairbanks, Morse & Company. I think it is out of print, but should be easy to find from the various used book networks.

A lot of collectors have the small single cylinder 3HP engines as you describe.

As Bill said "what do you need to know?". Are you trying to detirmine the exact date that engine was built or delivered? If you are trying to verify that the engine was sold to the owners/builders of that vessel.... I would say it would be difficult if the engine had a serial number and impossible if it doesn't.

Regards,
Andrew
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richarddurgee
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2002 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Heinz: As an old wreck diver just wondering if your diving it this time of year? also if you date
sinking around 1900 and tag says 3hp at 450rpm, this is an interesting engine. The 3 1/2 hp marine engines developed their power at 800 rpm,
were about 20 inches high and weigh about 90 lbs!
the early upright 3hp stationary engines that were
converted to many of the river boats were about 4
ft tall and over 1200lbs? About how big is
flywheel( has one flywheel or two/)was
flwheel spoked? sounds like a fun project! Richard
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mechman@nexicom.net
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Goodday all I have done some research on Canadian F-M & can tell you there are no records of any of their Canadian made engines --I contacted F-M in the U.S. over twenty years ago & this is what I was told then. In my reseach I found that they made engines in Toronto from around 1905 to 1925--all types from small boat engines up to large single cylinder tractors. I have a headless single cylinder F-M made in canada in my collection --it has spark plug ignition,Larry Healey
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Bill Schaller
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Bill Schaller
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2002 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

canadian fairbanks morse, 15 hp model k
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Dick Gibbens
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2002 - 07:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a FM T vertical one cyl stationary engine that was converted for marine use by removing one flywheel, adding a larger water pump from an IHC engine. I also have a 6HP IHC Famous vertical that got the same treatment. Both of these engines were worn extensively in marine use. I've researched and found the names of 39 boats and their owners that had converted engines used in South Louisiana. They were nicknamed FELEQUAK (sp) which is a name for a tall marsh bird that stands errect. I invite and willingly accept additions/corrections to my research!
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counternut
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Posted on Monday, November 21, 2005 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WE have a Fairbanks Morse gasoline engine. There is an oval plate that has the numbers 233003 and 3 horsepower, made in USA and 450 rpm. We are trying to find out when this was made. Can you suggest a site or information on it? Thank You for your time.
Kathy Lingar
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bonb pittman
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Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

where do i find small marine transmissions for air cooledd engines like honda, briggs et?
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Chuck Swenson
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Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have located a Fairbanks Morse model E or type E 2 cylinder 7 HP it is in good condition. I am thinking about buying it. Is it a desireable engine?
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solarrog
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Post Number: 419
Registered: 03-2002


Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is this a trick question???
if priced fairly buy it or pass on the information to others here
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johnny
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Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gentleman, Please remember what the subject of this thread is about, A Fairbanks engine 70ft under water. Please, do not hi-jack the gentleman's thread. A lot of folks do not realize that it is common courtesy that if you have a question about another subject then you are to start a new thread. Hope I did not offend anyone, just a little reminder to be courteous to others. Thank you.
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gudu
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Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a 4 HP impérial # 4434 engine, made by the Bruce Stewart & co in Charlettown PEI.
The cylinder is perforated and the water jacket is broken in some places, no lose bearings, piston, connecting rod and crank shaft are A1.
I also have the shaft, stuffing box, propeller, spare spark plug, new ignition coil and carburator.
This engine is also a gear driven jump spark.
If interested just contact me.
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robert
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Posted on Monday, March 22, 2010 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From the Canadian F-M marine engines I have seen (a few), there was a small cast boss on top of the cylinder where the serial number would be stamped. Those I have seen began with a capital "C", presumably to indicate "Canadian" etc. The boss was a round-ended rectangle about 1.5" long and perhaps 5/8" wide.
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billschaller
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Registered: 12-2003


Posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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