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Tom Stranko
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I owned this engine 20 years ago. I just recently managed to get it back.
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Tom Stranko
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Tom Stranko
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Tom Stranko
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Tom Stranko
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Tom Stranko
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is the 2 cyl Syracuse parts engine that was part of the deal
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Tom Stranko
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paulgray
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom- Schweet looking engine(s). I like the 5 ball Kingston and the nickel plated hardware. S/N is real low too! Reminds me a lot of the Barber I restored. That 2-cyl job certainly has a heavy flywheel.
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andrew
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom,

Those engines look great... it's always nice to get back an engine you regreted parting with...

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Tom Stranko
Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In my Syracuse catalog (no. 18) there are no small dia flywheels listed. The 2 cylinder config
pretty much matches the engines in that catalog.
The 3 cylinder does not match. I suspect the 3
is older (also has more external piping and more cast cylinder "ports")
T
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richarddurgee
Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2003 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Syracuse incorporated in 1909 and the tag says Co.
By 1908-09 syracuse was very proud of their wet ex manifolds, and even had a hot air chamber built into it to supply heat to the Carb. I believe this eng is one of the first series of engs they made.

I think Paul has a good eye about the size of flywheel on the twin, none of my catalogs or ads show that thick of a wheel?? of course they may have had special applications, several Co's would let you order different flwheel sizes and weights.

Great old eng would like to hear her run !!
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Keith
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2003 - 08:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tom
Great motor. Sure would like to have that in my collection.
Keith
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Susie Case
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Posted on Monday, January 02, 2006 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone interested in buying a NOS Syracuse Gas Engine catalog? It is in pristine condition--came from my father's stuff. I am selling some things to help my mother. The catalog shows lithos of Model !-B and 2B 4 cyl engine, 6 cyl Model 6-B, Model 2-C Heavy duty engine to name a few. It has a total of 30 pages. I was going to put it on ebay but saw your forum and thought that I would mention it to you guys to see if there would be any interest. The price is $35 for this mint catalog. Can send pics if you are interested--just ask.
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Susie Case
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Please contact me at: smendets@bellsouth.net if you are interested in the Syracuse catalog. I hope that I am not breaking any rules in mentioning this item at this forum.

Susie
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denis_rouleau
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Yesterday I bought a 12hp "The Syracuse" similar to the one pictured above. The serial number on my engine is even lower that Tom's Syracuse.
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denis_rouleau
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Here is a picture of my "The Syracuse" name tag.



Denis Rouleau
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bruce
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Post Number: 285
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2011 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice score denis; does it have the original "Crouse-Hinds double ball timer" and Oberdorfer gear water pump like Tom's? Both Oberdorfer and Crouse-Hinds are Syracuse NY based compannies still in business to this day. Richard Durgee here on OME just picked up a 3 cyl Syracuse only 10 miles from my NY location-he saw it first...oh well.
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denis_rouleau
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Bruce, I will try to attach a few pictures to help answer your last question.








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richarddurgee
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Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Denis
Your new old Syracuse triple is a nice piece of marine engine history.

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Syracuse Gas Engine Co. was established in 1906.

Dr.S.Hubell I believe was the money man, F.C.Eddy was Pres and treasurer, and C.A.Clarke was the engineer, engine designer and patent holder for the water cooled exhaust that came along in 1908.

Your engine has a dry exhaust so was mfgrd 1906-08. it was designated as Model B with a 4 inch bore and a 4 inch stroke, these B models are noticeable by the one piece cylinder and crankcase casting. up to 1908 they were mfgrd in 1,2,3 and 4 cylinder engs.
The tag on your B model reads # 33 and could very well be the 33rd engine Syracuse made ??

Late 1908 thru 1912 the engines were very much the same but had the wet exhaust and a six cyl was available.

A larger Heavy Duty model C was also mfgrd and had a 6 inch bore and a 7 inch stroke, they were noticeable by a flanged Cylinder to crankcase two piece casting.

This is my new old model C wet exhaust triple late 1908-1912

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By the looks of these Central Upsate New York Marine Engines Barber,Parker, Syracuse, Watertown, Lloyd, Wonder etc there is definately some sort of past DNA connection ?

Great Old Marine Engines !!

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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 2945
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Syracuse Gas Engine Company est 1906 was Incorporated in 1909 by Fred C.Eddy, L.S.Chapman and E.J.Paradis. Paradis was brought over from the General Machinery Co. an early mfgr of the quality made smalley marine engines.He was The
President and General Manager Of Syracuse Gas Engine Co.
Syracuse issued an engine catalog in 1912 and abruptly disappered from view ?

This article from the Picton Ontario newswpaper referring to an incident 12-11-1912 may have answered why ?

Picton Weekly NEWS

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richarddurgee
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1910 The Steamer "CASPIAN" mentioned in article above.



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