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rbprice
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Username: rbprice

Post Number: 550
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This engine was shown to me at a local show and the owner would like to identify it. Any ideas??
Thanks and I have more pictures if you want to see them.





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david_doyle
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Post Number: 77
Registered: 03-2013
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I for one am keen to read the answer! To my eye it sure looks like something to trust!
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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 3879
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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RB

Post photos of all sides ?

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bruce
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Post Number: 582
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2016 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

THe little "flask" like fuel reservoir appears to be a re-purposed water pump pulsation dampener dome???

Sweet petite engine
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rbprice
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Post Number: 553
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2016 - 05:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's 2 other views of the engine supplied by Bruce Hall who saw the engine at a show.


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bruce
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Post Number: 583
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Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2016 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Love the water pump running via oscillating base pressure. Crankcase is cast brass fitted to an iron stand...
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nar
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Username: nar

Post Number: 24
Registered: 04-2007


Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2016 - 07:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like a neat engine! The only thing I can think of that looks familiar is this engine a friend use to own which another friend owns now. They have a name for it but I can't think of it right now but there are a couple around.

-Nickengine
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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 3901
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Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2016 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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nar

Possible you could call or text your friend so we could put a name on this engine ?



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nar
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Post Number: 26
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Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2016 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I got the name of the red engine in the picture I posted; it’s supposed to be made by the “St. Louis Motor Car Company”. I guess there are at least 2 horizontals of these. I also I found out that there is supposed to be a company in New York that was affiliated with the St. Louis Motor Car Co that made a similar engine. When I heard that I thought of the American Motor Company’s engines from New York; see pics below. They made a lot of different versions of engines for anything, carriages, motorcycle, boats & stationary engines & they changed styles of them a lot.

Most the pictures show the American pull-rod exhaust valve engines from around 1896 on. The last picture shows their earlier (1895) side chamber marine. These are all older than the unknown engine posted above but have a couple similarities.

-Nick



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nar
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Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2016 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

More pics;



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nar
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Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2016 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The first pic is of an 1896 engine. The last pic is of a replica of the 1895 side chamber American Motor Co. engine.


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robert
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Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2016 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Neat hardly begins to describe it. Could it be an experimental
or apprentice piece?

Not to mention this primeval outboard above!
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richarddurgee
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2016 - 06:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Nick

A delayed response, I appreciate your reply to this old pull rod engine ! I called it a pushrod-
I guess that indicates that I don't know whether I'm coming or going ??

This info gets us closer to Identifying these pullrod engines - this is from my data base list
on first St Louis engine maker-

May be same as St Louis Gas & Gasoline Engine Works ? The St. Louis Gasoline Engine Company at 11th and Clark built the first gas engines locally starting in 1897 for automobiles.

Also in list is American Motor Co. Their initial
listing was New Jersey,Hoboken 1896 later listed New York, but as many Co's they opened offices in New York while engines were made elsewhere ?
notes from database-Albert T. Otto (Blount & Otto) Absorbed by the Automobile Company of America 1895 also absorbed the Monitor Vapor Engine and Power Co. of Michigan
Still trying to sort these mfgrs out !

Thank again for posting.

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