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Gilbert
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Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2004 - 02:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do you know where I may be able to buy a kit to use a Briggs and Stratton 5-10 horsepower horizontal shaft engine as an inboard engine to power a small (14') boat? I'm talking about a strut/propeller shaft/stuffing box , propeller, etc. that bolts to the bottom of the boat and the shaft goes thru the hull and attaches to the engine shaft. I know they make them, I had one once but am having a difficult time finding one now. Please help in any way you can.
Best regards,
Gilbert afmoses@hotmail.com
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rbprice
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Posted on Friday, July 09, 2004 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gil - all that sort of boat component can be purchased new from numerous boat supply companies like Jamestown distributors http://www.jamestowndistributors.com or you can haunt some local boat yards for old pieces and parts from a scrap boat. You need to do some homework on the size of the prop and shaft so that whatever you get is appropriate for the engine.

Good Luck.
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Gilbert Ellis
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 02:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks rb, I searched their catalog and found everything from anchors to zinc anodes, but not the items I'm looking for. I have sent an email to them. Perhaps they can help. Thanks again
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andrew
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gilbert,

A company that manufactures a large assortment of struts, shafting, thru-hulls, stuffing boxes, etc is Buck Algonquin in Delaware. I'm sure they don't sell a kit as you mentioned... but they may have most of the components that you need. One problem may be that what you need might be smaller than what they (and other companies) manufacture.
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Gilbert Ellis
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Posted on Tuesday, July 13, 2004 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andrew,
Thanks for the info. A lot of people remember the kit. At one time you could find them at the neighborhood hardware stores in Southern Louisiana. I've seen plenty of them, (30 years ago) I guess they are a thing of the past now.
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rbprice
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Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gil - contact JB Castagnos - he is in your part of the world and has an almost infinite knowledge about boat engines and boats. jbcast@charter.net and say hello for me. :o)

Bob
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keith
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Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gilbert
I have, as a part of my collection, a NOS kit that was made by REO lawnmower. It came with everything you needed to power your boat with the engine off your lawn mower. I will take a picture and post it.
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Gilbert Ellis
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Thanks to everyone......I am still looking
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Gilbert Ellis
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Keith,
I can't wait to see your photo of your kit.
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jb_castagnos
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Posted on Thursday, July 15, 2004 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gilbert, Robicheaux Lumber in Raceland had parts in stock when I built my boat 10 years ago. Shannon Hardware in Morgan City also had a good stock but thir store burnt down and I don't think they put this back in the new store. Where are you located?
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keith
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Posted on Saturday, July 17, 2004 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gilbert,
I finally got around to taking a picture. This unit is NOS and mounted to show the assembly. In the background is the box it came in. The engine is just an old REO.
Keith

Trollabout
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solarrog
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Posted on Saturday, July 17, 2004 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is the REO Trollable kit, I have pictures of one as taken out of the box.
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Gilbert Ellis
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Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Keith
That's exactly what I've been looking for. Thank you for the photo. What does NOS mean?
Gilbert
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Gilbert Ellis
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Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

JB
Thank you for the info, I tried to get the phone number for Robicheaux Lumber in Raceland, but couldn't find it. I'm from southern La. Used to fish all the time close to Raceland at Bayou Gauche. Rented a boat from Mr. Murphy, that had the set up I'm looking for. I live in Ok. now. I'm building a Chinese type skiff and want to put a Listeroid 8/1 diesel in it with that inboard kit. I know my first post said Briggs, but I decided to go with the low rpm diesel instead.
Gilbert
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Gilbert Ellis
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Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In case anyone wants to email info on this my address is wrong in the first post, it should be afknmoses@hotmail.com
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Gilbert Ellis
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Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To everyone that has replied to my post....Thanks. I'm still looking. If I can't find the kit, I will try to buy the parts individually. I'm not very knowledgeable in that area, but I guess now is as good a time as any to try to learn.
Thank you all again
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keith
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Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gilbert
NOS means "New Old Stock". How many horsepower is the diesel and what is the size of the hull?
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Gilbert Ellis
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Keith
The diesel is an 8 hp 1 cylinder water cooled Lister clone, the hull is 16 1/2 feet long. Is your "kit" for sale?
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gilbertellis
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Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Keith,
here is a photo of the engine I hope to use.

8 hp Lister clone
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andrew
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Posted on Sunday, July 18, 2004 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gilbert,

There are problems with that engine that will make it difficult as a marine installation. one being that you won't be able to get the engine low enough in the boat to keep the shaft at a reasonable angle and keep the center of gravity as low as you would like.

The Lister is a great engine, and I saw your post with the link to Utterpower which is a neat website... but you need a marine version of the Lister... proper low base, one flywheel, not two, and smaller diameter flywheel. You also want a reverse gear or at least a marine clutch. Lister sold marine versions that were air cooled and water cooled. Water cooled is the way to go.

Also, that kit will be much to light and small for that engine... you will need a larger wheel and sturdy shaft, strut, stuffing box, etc.

Post a wanted ad on the Classifieds, they show up fairly often.

Also try some of the Lister Links in the MarineEngine.com directory. Mid-Atlantic in New Jersey has sold a lot of Listers over the years and might know of used engines too.
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gilbertellis
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Posted on Monday, July 19, 2004 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andrew,
Thanks for that info, you have probably saved me a lot of headaches.
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rholcomb
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Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 06:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A few years back wasn`t there a discussion on a marineized 3 or 4 hp International from fhe southern U.S called a Fellaquack ????????
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andrew
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Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gilbert,

Gil Plumb in CT has a 2 cylinder Lister for sale as well as a small Westerbeke diesel, you could call him at 860-767-7351 (he doesn't use email much).
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Richard Gibbens
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Posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2004 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Right. See my post on 1-11-02 under One and Two cyl inboards. The thread subject is Fairbanks Morse. Please note that I have never seen the word 'FELEQUAK" written. I spell it here phonetically, having heard it spoken by older operators. I have a list of the names of 39 boats and their owners with "Felequak" engines. I have a IHC 6 HP vertical and a FM 2 HP vertical model T that were in boats. The IHC made the back cover of Gas Engine Magazine, Feb 1995 issue. It has one 350 lb flywheel. A gentleman told me it was too light! They have severe vibrations, the stock flywheels were counterweighted, now removed. One boat was described to me as having chains from the cylinderhead to the gunwals! One operator coupled two, making a two cylinder. The Lister would be a great project, but not in a 16 foot boat. I'd say no less than 35 feet of heavy boat. I bought a shaft and stuffing box in Calvert, they are around. I made everything in my boat except the stuffing box. A gentleman told me, "You're missing the SORE LEG! That predates the stuffing box. Surround the shaft with about 16" of old britches leg. Tack to the bottom to the boat. Spoon in some tallow or stiff water pump grease. Wrap the "LEG" with twine. Tie off 4-5 places to keep the leg from rotating. If it starts to leak, just massage it some! Dick Gibbens
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chuck
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I have a English Villiers air cooled engine that has been factory marinized with a variable pitch reversing prop. Needs some work but however I might trade it for an interesting marine engine. By the way parts are still avalable for these engines. Mine is approx 40 years old.
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chuck_balyeat
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Dont forget the curry dsl has no proper thrust bearing for pushing a boat .
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Chuck Franklin
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Someone requested a photo of my air cooled Villiers inboard engine with a variable pitch prop (feathering reversable prop). I lost there address before i could get good photos, so is a photo. addition photos on request, I also have the manual for this engine.British Villiers engine with feathering prop system
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Tony O Driscoll
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I have a 19ft long daysailer boat and i want to put a small 5/6hp inboard engine into it.I am very confined with the amount of space available for this engine and I have heard there may be some small air cooled petrol engines which would be suitable do you know where I can get any information on these
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gilbertellis
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Harbor Freight sells a 7 hp electric start Robin Subaru for $569.99. They sell Briggs and Stratton and other hp ratings also. Here is a link to the Robin Subaru:
http://order.harborfreight.com/EasyAsk/harborfreight/results.jsp?ts=Sun%20Aug%20 15%2014:40:49%20PDT%202004 if the link doesn't work, copy and paste it in your browser. or go to: www.harborfreight.com ,Hope this helps.
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gaspereaux
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Hi Chuck, do you still have the engine and if so do you have any additional info like HP weight etc. Also, where are you located? I have a Detroit onelunger (spark plug) in near working order and a project Acadia Gas engine make-and-break.

Rich Murray
North Weymouth MA 02191
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TimThomas
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I am looking for a varible pitch prop kit to fit a 5 hp Briggs. If there is a kit with all of the gear needed that would be perfect. I am starting from scratch.
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E. Manzo
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Hey Gilbert, just surfing and saw your cool idea and that awesome REO kit! Contact George again at Utterpower. They are getting other water cooled diesels like Petters with the single flywheel that are smaller than the 6/1. Like Andrew was talking about. They are going to use them with modified Delco alternators to charge battery banks. New project. Anyway, hope that helps.
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Brian J. Lawson
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I have just acquired a home built boat with a REO inboard kit for power. Haven't got it home yet, but excited about it!
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andrew
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Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Brian,

Please post some pictures and/or more information about it when you can...

You should probably post them as a "new thread" instead of at the end of this one.
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robert
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The old cast iron B&S engines are around. I just picked up a US Motors "marinized" version for $5.00 in a scrap yard. I believe the engine was the Briggs Model K. If you go over to Harry's Old Engine site you'll find all kinds of Briggs enthusiasts who probably have just what you're looking for.

The Lister would work well in a hull with side or rear paddles, otherwise you'll need to use a hydraulic pump and motor to drive a conventional shaft!
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JuniorW
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Is there anyone that can provide any information about setting the timing on a 6 hp acadia engine?
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I can provide timing info / instructions, but why is this topic headed up with "Briggs & Stratton Inboard 8 Hp"?

First let me ask if you have ever run an Acadia engine?

If you have, you must know how to start it. If not, I need to know that you don't know how to start them. Then we can get past this part and get into the timing aspects.

They usually start pretty easily, but you actually pull the starter peg up in the opposite rotation direction that you want the engine to run.

I know that sounds goofey, but it is correct.

Write back and answer my questions and I'll tell you the rest of the timing stuff.

I can even send some good images, etc.

Regards,

Archibald}
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ShelleyLeRoyforJuniorW
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Thanks for your reply and I must apolgize for posting request on this site (if I shouldn't have). To provide you with some brief details...my dad purchased a 6hp acadia engine. He is quite familiar with this engine as he has had a couple of them before. The timing is off on the engine. I myself am not familiar with this stuff at all. He asked me to post a request somewhere on the intranet looking for this information. He has been speaking with a few people that provided him with timing information but they have all provided different information and he is not sure which is correct. When should she be firing? At 11 o'clock or 11:30. She rocks back and forth at 11 o'clock.

Images would be a great help as well as any other information. His email address is clwells@nf.sympatico.ca

Thanks for your help with us and again i apologize for posting here, if i wasn't suppose to.
Shelley
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Posted on Thursday, July 03, 2008 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Shelley,

If you are pulling up on the brass starter handle or wooden peg that would make the engine rotate in a clockwise direction, the engine will want to trip the igniter at about 10 or 11 o'clock. Then it will fire and the explosion will push the piston back down which makes the engine turn and run in a counter-clockwise direction.

That clicking noise, of the igniter mechanism tripping, should be heard at about 10 or 11 o'clock. This sound will occur even if you are turning the engine over very slowly without a battery connected.

There is also a timing lever. That lever should be pulled toward you for starting and then slowly pushed back toward the engine once she starts to run.

As you know the engine will run happily in either direction. It's supposed to work like that. That's how you get reverse!

There is a small wire spring wrapped about the tripping finger. That spring must be there for the mechanism to fire / click correctly. If that small wire spring is missing, you'll have to make one or get one somewhere.

Write again if you need more info or if I have missed the mark.

Regards,

Archibald

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ShelleyLeRoyforJuniorW
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Thanks for providing the information....engine is working excellent
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Wanted: Caterpillar 3208 Marine Diesel Service Manual. Manual #SEBR2132 (1Z) appx. 1988 or Manual #SENR6595
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Keith i had a reo inboard went i was 9 I'm try to build a biger one could you send me a picture of the tramission with the cover off and the shaft out with it in forward and one in rev i know the tram is easy to make
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bbrad
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Gilbert, I now own the REO Trollabout that Keith showed a picture of in this post, it was designed for the 1 3/4 h.p. REO and swould probably not handle an 8 h.p. engine.
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Gilbert, I see that you got a reo trollabout could you take sum picture of the tramissin with the cover off it and with it in forward grear and in rev on also were did you get your reo
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JDawg
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Hey guys,
Im new to this boat world and as a summer project I am going to install my own inboard motor system into a boat i bought. I have a briggs and straton motor and the boat and thats it. I need to make or buy all the other parts to make the drive shaft and everything. Can you guys help me out here and give me a few key hints or tips to get me going? Thanks!
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rbprice
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Well some additional information would be useful. What are the dimensions of the boat: OAL, beam, draft, hull type, materials (wood, aluminum, fiberglass), what is the HP of the engine, does it have a gear box, is it air or water cooled, how fast do you expect the boat to go, is it salt or fresh water, how many books on boat building have you read, are you a good mechanic with your own machine shop, do you have wood working skills etc.

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