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richarddurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 742
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This unknown engine is in the current May 2005 issue of Gas Engine Magazine on page 6. Last year photos were sent to me of an identical opposed engine and on the flywheel it said Lockwood ash Model B. What little info I have been able to find indicates that Lockwood did make an opposed marine engine about 1929 ?? Anyone have any info on this one !

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billschaller
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Post Number: 133
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it sure looks like a rail car engine to me.
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foxman
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Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lockwood Motor Co. (W.L. Ash was long gone from the firm in 1929 and the name was dropped in 1927)made two types of well regrding opposed twin outboards in 1929, the 7hp Ace and the 14 hp Chief, They made a racing version of the Chief. I don't know whether they were still making the small inboards at that time; I doubt it. The flywheel on the engine is a Eisemann mag and the flywheel is off a 1929-30 Chief. They were designing a flat four cylinder four stroke 25hp at the time and built two prototypes (one still exists)to be maketed as the Lockwood Flying Four. This may have been built using the knowhow from that project. Perhaps they landed a contract wiht a railroad or a Loco mfgr like Baldwin for the little engine. A "B" series Lockwood refers to the Chief.
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thomas
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Post Number: 256
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are we sure this isn't a Brennan made in Syracuse , NY? I'm away from my stuff but I will look later.
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Lou Brumaghim
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Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gentleman; In regards to the engine above. I'm sorry that my e-mail address wasn't included in the G.E.M magazine. It is drlou@midtel.net Thanks Lou
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enginenut
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Username: enginenut

Post Number: 2
Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard,I believe this engine is a Buda as in the company that Allis-Chalmers bought in mid 50's to get their line of diesels.Buda made a lot of railway equipment and I have seen a motorcar with a Buda opposed engine but carrying the badge of Fairbanks-Morse.I have a larger Buda of the pattern shown here with spoked flywheel and mag up on top.I couldn't tell who made it untill we dismantled it and found on the rods and timing gear"Buda The Engine".All my castings had numbers prefixed "ME" and the motorcar engine I saw was prefixed "MA".Three years ago a collector friend came up with a small version like pictured but with spoke flywheel in a automotive frame that was reportedly from a pre-1920 truck--the brand slips me.I have pictures of a Buda diesel(large)with one of these engines at the rear like a Cat opposed starting motor to crank the big boy.My engine is a "jughead" like the one pictured-4 1/4x4 1/4 and has the fins arranged around the valve access plug just like the one pictured.My engine mounts are arranged the same.This engine likely was cooled by air from forward motion of the vehicle.The mag on mine as I said was on top and would date it in the late 20's-early 30's.
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richarddurgee
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Post Number: 747
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is the other engine that says Lockwood Ash model B on the flywheel ? both engines have similar marine flywheels, the exhaust pipes, and the rest of the engine doesn't appear to be marine ? Thanks


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enginenut
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Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Must to go to the NAMES show in Detroit this week end but I'll try next week to post some scans and pics to see if I can support the Buda theory.My engine is not assembled but I can show some similarities.Your pictured engines flywheels provide for magneto but no cooling air that suggests maybe short expected run time or ???.My and the friends flywheels are large and heavy with 5 and 6 vane shaped spokes but no hint of a shroud or any places to mount one.I wish the picture were bigger of the starting engine application.
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Lou Brumaghim
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Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard, the two engines sure look like twins. Everything is the same. The dipstick for checking the oil the rod that is looped at each end for the plug wirers, the rear where your v-pulley is fastened. I removed the wooden pulley and there are no markings. Someone put extra piping on the top of mine where you add the oil.

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