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andrew
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Post Number: 613
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Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The following came in by email from Bill:

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Been ages since I posted to the oldmarineengine board...

... my neighbour has just been given a single cylinder Stanley Model C3 serial 817. It is free and complete and is quite an interesting engine.

I have posted some pics at

http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=4032920&a=32129811&f=

Different features are two speed controls (throttle and spark), air preheater, two oilers (one feeds base), water cooled exhaust and muffler, all piping including exhaust is brass, and water pick-up fitted with strainer and piping as though it might have sucked water from the bildge.

Questions that first come to mind are:

1. Is there any technical info available (manuals, etc)

2. What was the original colour scheme for this engine

3. Can anyone date the engine

4. Assume it is a 3HP?

5. Given oiler in base, what oil/gas ratio should one use?

6. Any advice on how the two speed controls interact?

Have read all the posts that come up with a 'Stanley' search. Hope there may be a little more out there

And yes, I am still working on the 3 cylinder Dunn

Thanks Bill Rupka Scots Bay, NS, Canada
rupka@istar.ca


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jb_castagnos
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Post Number: 108
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's a nice complete engine Bill. Most of the two cycles I've dealt with are jump spark, use timing for the main speed control, carb can be throttled for a slower idle. I don't know how much range of advance and retard the ignitor will give, you may need the throttle. What's the shaft by the carb, is there a barrel valve in the tranfer port?
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Bill Rupka
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Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have no idea what that shaft is for. This is the first Stanley I have seen and it has not been stripped down as yet. My neighbour is currently repainting one of his cars so expect it will be a while before he get to the Stanley. I'll try to get more pictures as he takes it apart and will advise when they are posted
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andrew
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Post Number: 615
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 07:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bill,

You posted as a "visitor". You are registered.

username: bill

and then your password.

Thanks.
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thomas
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Post Number: 185
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a scan of a 1911 "Rudder" magazine with a Stanley ad showing Bill's engine pretty closely.
The M&B fixed point is not that ball shape but the rest is. There is also another Stanley 1911 "heavy duty" with a different air pre-heater
design. Still uses a Schebler but not as neat in the piping to/from the pre-heat area or the crankcase. I would say this is a "1911" or so
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bill
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Posted on Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Thomas. I'll pass the info along to my neighbour.
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thomas
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bill,
I looked at all the pages of scanned original or Xerox stuff on the Stanley I have. It appears your friends engine (same one) is pictured from a 1909 Rudder Magazine, 1911 Rudder and a 1916 Motor Boat magazine. The "Heavy Duty" model (not your friends) is a big center fold shot from 1911
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thomas
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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bill
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Posted on Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the scans Thomas. I'll pass them along

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