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redneckgunman
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Username: redneckgunman

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Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings. I am looking to get an estimated value for a marine engine I have. It is a WWII era Packard 4m-2500 v-12 that came from a PT Boat. It is roughly 2500 cubic inches of displacement. This engine produced between 1200 to 1500 BHP. The engine has a data plate on it from overhaul in 1959. Since then, it has less then 1 hour of operating time on it, and has been pickled. It has been sitting in my grandfather's barn since the 60's. I do not know how he got ahold of it, or where he got it. I hav done a lot of research on this engine, trying to find a value, with minimal sucess. I was led to this website, and hope to get some information. if anyone knows of a place where I can find the value, or if they happen to know the value, please let me know. I know an accuarate value is hard to determine, sight unseen, however, I am just looking for a ballpark figure, or range. Thank you all.
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donwhite
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Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Although this website is for models, it has several great pictures of the real thing.
http://www.pt-boat.com/packard/packard.html
See also
http://www.acbs-bslol.com/Miscellaneous/PTPower.htm
One more model website but good commentary on the utilization of the Packard V12 2500 engines.
I have no idea of the value of such an engine. It strikes me since the unlimited class has gone to jets, it may not have much of a market.
Good Luck!
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bruce
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Post Number: 206
Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Try calling the Antique Boat museum 315-686-4104 at Clayton NY. Ask if they would post a faxed poster by you to them at the upcoming 100th anniversary of the Gold Cup Regatta seeking offers. Try the discussion page on the vintagehydroplanes.com web site. Dave Thomas can give you info on the Higgins connection to a new WW2/PT museum in LA. higginsclassicboats.com John Freeman plays with vintage unlimiteds and would be a great source of current valuation/possible sale. retrorace@gisco.net
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mart
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Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2004 - 12:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

About the vintage hydroplanes. The Packard V12's that the unlimited class racers used were *not* the Packard PT boat engines. The race boats used the Packard built, Roll Royce Merlin V1650 aircraft engine, which is a completely different engine and has nothing in common with the Packard PT boat engine, except that they both had 12 cylinders.

About the value. It's probably worth something to a museum or some group restoring a WWII vintage PT boat, but it has little actual use value. Parts for this engine are rare and almost imposible to come by. In addition the 115/145 octane military grade aviation fuel that this engine requires (and in huge quantities!)is not produced anymore and is impossible to get. The engine is a rare and historical piece and should definately be preserved, but it's not something that could be used in any sort of modern day work or pleasure craft.
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richardday
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Username: richardday

Post Number: 284
Registered: 11-2003


Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2004 - 08:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Redneck, Is this the engine that was at the Tuckahoe engine show this last July? Very impressive hunk of iron. Ran like a clock but not much to see in the way of cams, push rods con rods and all the the moving parts of the old timers. It also had an impressive voice and we enjoyed seeing it run. I can only imagine what the engine room noise of a PT boat with three of those monsters flat out must have been like.
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steve krauklis
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Posted on Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i would be intrested in buying that engine off you if its for sale send me an email at krauklis@mail.com
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GMilan
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Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a aluminum cast cover (valve?) about 49 1/2 inches long 8 inches wide and about 6 inches high Ih has 12 bolt holes on each side 3 more across the width (front) and two more on each side in the rear where it widens out for the last 5 inches (of the 49 in length) It widens to 11 inches. It has the word "Packard" cast into the cover twice Once facing each direction. The top of the cover has a breather opening about 3 inches from the front the cover is also marked PL 752 and the breather cover marked A-71304 and separately 523 Any info would be greatly appreciated. thanks GM

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