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drib
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Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have just started an engine restoration on a Buchanan Engine, im thinking its about 1933, and its a baby four (the smallest one available). Im doing the restoration for my uncle, and im doing it in my tech class. Its turing out to be a pretty challenging project since there is no manual to check simple things like tourque specs, and since its an aluminum block i have to be especially careful. I was wondering if anyone was in the same boat (no pun intended). And if possible to send me some information that would prove to be useful. I am aware to my knowlege that this engine isnt really the most common Buchanan available, but any information would prove a huge help. Thanks~Drib...
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miro
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Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are you sure ithe lock is aluminum? The smallest Buchanan I know of is a Midget, based on a British AUstin block ( cast iron).
I'll see if I have the torque specs - I have SOME info on the MIdget.
miro
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drib
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Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Im more than positive that it's aluminum, no doubt. Im told that this engine is about 10 horsepower. Anything would thelp, thanks. Drib
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robert
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Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I always thought the Junior 4 was based on the Hercules IXB-3 and the Midget on the Hercules ZXB-3 block. Can line you up with a NOS gasket set if it is the ZXB you've got. Never heard of them being cast in aluminum. The gear casing, sump and flywheel housing were available in aluminum though, at least on the Junior 4.
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drib
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Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

With my engine it can be separated from the Cylinder Block, so the crank case is aluminum, if its of any help it has "Tenual" in the side of the engine... Also i hear about this "NOS" gasket, if you dont mind clarifing as to what that is. But any help is a big help!!! Thanks so much, Drib..
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rbprice
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Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NOS - New Old Stock it's 250 years old but it's never been used. :o)

Bob Price

"It is far, far better to ask a question and be fool for a moment than to remain silent and be a fool forever"
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drib
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Posted on Monday, October 25, 2004 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Once again, if it could help, after finishing the measurements of the cylinders, the bore is about 2.200in - 2.203in. so when i said small its small. I have yet to figure out the stroke. The only Gasket i need is the copper head gasket, the others can be hand made, which im doing. As the time comes nearer for reassembly i'm starting to get nervous about the absence of tourque specs, even with hours being spent searching the net. Thanks for you help...Drib
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robert
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Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Would this be new enough for you Bob?
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drib
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Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the image doesnt appear.
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andrew
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Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt,
The pictures of the gasket sets that Robert posted do appear. Do you not see them? If not it may be due to your browser or to a firewall or security setting that you have on your computer.

I can see them. If you still can't send me an email and let me know what browser and what version you use.
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larry_from_maryland
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Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My book lists the zxb with a 2 5/8 bore.Thats more than drib says,so that gasket set wont fit?We are talking about a flat head engine?
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drib
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I see the images now. The engine is speak of is a flathead. To elaborate on what i mentioned earlier. The crankcase is aluminum bearing the name "Tenual" on it. The cylinder block is probably Iron, with the earlier posted cylinder bores. These two parts can be separated. Thanks for all your input, and more is welcome... Much thanks, Drib..
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jamesosler
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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is a company in Orillia Ontario that owns the remaining parts and litature of the Buchanan Engine Company. They are called Parry Automotive they will be you best bet.
James
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Glenn Hodgkinson
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Posted on Tuesday, November 09, 2004 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just to clarify - the Buchanan Midget is based on a Hercules ZXB engine. The Buchanan Baby Four had ratings from 10 - 13 HP and was also known as a Model Y. Though the Buchanan manuals do show these engines, the details are sketchy at best. It appears to have been based on an Austin American engine that was produced between 1930 and 1933. Standard bore for that engine was 2.200. Please feel free to contact me directly at my email address - glenn@parryautomotive.com if you have any further questions or have a serial number you would like researched.
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Larry White
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Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where can I purchase a gasket set like the one pictured above. I have a zxb-3 hercules engine I am about to disassemble and overhaul. I am also looking for a source for rings, main bearings, camshaft, rods, and anything else I might find needing replacement once I get into it.
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vern
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Posted on Friday, June 10, 2005 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looking for source for parts,oil pump in particular, for restoration of an Avery model V tractor. Need gaskets etc also.
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vern
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Posted on Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

corrected email address

vernraber@hotmail.com
need zxb-3 parts and gaskets
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larry_from_maryland
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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 07:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For herk parts try Jerry Biro ,Biro@alltel.net I belive his phone number is posted some on this site too.
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antique_marine_ptk
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Just to let you know, we have acquired all of Jerry Biro's ZXB parts about nine months ago. We may be contacted at 905-831-2370, or patricktkeefe@aol.com
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Joe Mazur
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Posted on Friday, January 19, 2007 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi, I'm looking for a carb to fit a 1941 ZXB 2 5/8x3 hercules engine. Somebody decided they needed ours more than we did. Also this is in an orignal Hobart 3.0 KVA military gen set. All appears original, do any of you know an approxmate value? Thanks, Joe
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roger
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Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Robert, Are those Gaskets for a hercules zxb-3 engine> 65 cu. in. I have a model v avery with that engine and I need gaskets. Are they for sale? thanks, Roger
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robert
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Posted on Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought I had one set left, but looking around I can't find it. Give me a couple of weeks. Big cleanup in the offing here!
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roger
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Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2008 - 07:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Robert, Have any luck on finding gaskets for hercules ZXB-3 avery engine? Roger
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robert
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Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2008 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The garage sale sort-out is pending. Will advise.
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Keith Knowlton
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am in need of a manifold for a Hercules ZXB, but would consider a complete engine as well. Can anyone help?
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mark brinkman
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Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2012 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i am a new owner of a 18' Grew with a junior 4 buchanan . not sure of the year anychance the engine serial # can give the age?27202

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