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zed
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Registered: 05-2006
Posted on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello everybody
Can anyone tell me all details and specifications of this engine , I can't find much on perkins pages ,also I think that this engine is produced in 1971.
Because oil cooler of transsmition is from that date
and all parts are original..Like I sad it;s original marine engine and I am desperate about finding specifications on this one!!}
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larry_from_maryland
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Posted on Friday, May 12, 2006 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What would you like to know?Its about 98 continous hp at 2200rpm.This engine was made in differant versions and in differant countries.To really know what it is find the serial number on the front left side close to the injector pump.Most anything you need can be had from valu-bilt look under massy fergeson.Napa has some parts too.
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ed mc
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

how do i purge air from my fuel system my 1972 180 hp perkins diesel has vapor lock and i cant seem to get fuel to all of the injectors
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oslin04
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi ed mc,
You May be dragging air in to the system? start from the tank and check you do not have any over tightened olives causing air leaks,also check the lift pump is working ok, bleed the first filter you come to in the line from the tank, then any filters mounted on the engine followed by the injection pump, if it is an in line injection pump there may be two bleed nipples there, make sure the fuel flow is clear with no bubbles.
I do not normally bleed the injectors, i crank the engine over at full throtle setting and they will self bleed.
Hope this helps, if not you will have to carefully check all the lines and fittings, and strip the lift pump to look for faults in the valves or diaphram.
regards Keith. Marine Engineer
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oslin04
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

P.S. ed mc. i also meant to say check the rubber filter seals and if all this fails, you will have to get the injector pump rebuilt.
Keith.
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larry_from_maryland
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Posted on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You have the verticle CAV rotary injector pump and it has 2 places to bleed air. If it was really pumping on some cylinders it would try to run on just those. Its more likely its not really pumping the preasure the injectors need.
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Jim Hall
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am trying to identify a 6cyl inline naturally assperated perkins marine diesel engine where are the serial numbers located? both motors have what i assume is a casting number located on RH side of block above oil pan gasket? 37114670 any and all info would be helpfull hp? year? venurability?
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larry_from_maryland
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Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The serial numbers are on the right angle drive base just below the injector pump. i don't have all the 354 serial numbers,but i have most of the north american made engines. The old numbers start with 354 the newer ones have letter prefixes which tell where they were made.
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Roberto Pessanha
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Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello,
I`ve a Mercedes Benz/MTU Marine OM-352A . Changing damaged engine oil cooler, mounted high in the engine, noticed there are two check valves on oil inlet and outlet connections. Are the valves mandatory ? What´s the function ?? The new cooler i bought has no valves.
Thanks in advance
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larry_from_maryland
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Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Normally check valves are to keep the cooler or other parts full,so they don't drain out when not running. This is a big help in raiseing the oil preasure quickly when the engine is started after sitting a while. Otherwise the oil pump has to fill the cooler and other parts before you get any preasure. It allso helps keep the oil pump primed, some engines have that problem. I would think you would only need one.
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georgerb
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Posted on Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I recently replaced an impeller on the saltwater side of the cooling system. I had to loosen a zinc nut on the system to let air out so that water would flow. It seemed to work. Went back several days later, started engine, no raw water in exhaust??? Why or how could I be loosing prime?
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alan112233
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Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi,
have a diesel perkins engine occasionally when at idle it will rev up to max reves and stay there for a few minutes, any ideas on what it could be
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ron_heitmann
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Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

alan. check for air in fuel. many older units have hydrolic governors and they are quite sensative to air in fuel. check fuel return for air while running engine.
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sailmaster
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Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 07:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The fuel system is under a vacuum up to the lift pump and after that it is under pressure. If you are sure you have no air leaking in the system before the lift pump move onto the return line. Make it is not leaking by putting a hose on it and running it into a can of fuel, making sure it is submerged. Then pump the fuel through the system by hand or with an electric fuel pump while bleeding the bottom bleed screw on the injector pump, then bleed the top bleed screw after shutting the bottom. When all the air is out, then break the fittings at the injectors and crank the engine until you se fuel squirting out. Tighten the fittings and start the engine. If it does not start, repeat the process. If it still does not start and there you are sure there is no air leaking you probable need the injector pump and injectors rebuilt. Make sure that the lift pump ,is working before you go to all the trouble. You can fit a cheap electric pump in its place to check.
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David Roots
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Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a Perkins 6-354 marine engine with the wrong dipstick (the marks are in the wrong place for my engine). The possible oil capacity is listed in the manual as between 20 and 52 pints depending on the sump casting type, so I do not know where to put new dipstick marks on my stick.
I assume the oil level limits in all such engines are the same, relative to the crankshaft, with the sump capacity being the only variable.
Can anyone give me measurements from the bottom of the engine casting to the "full" and "empty" marks on their dipstick?
And am I on the right track?
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drydock
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Posted on Monday, August 17, 2009 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Folks, I have a Perkins 6-354.& a Borg Warner transmission I had the engine completely rebuilt and it purrs like a kitten, I put it into my boat but it turns out to be way to big for it. I got some really bad advice from my boat builder. I'm looking to sell the engine and transmission.
It turns out that I need a 40 hp diesel not a 130hp diesel. Anyone interested?
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luis Diaz
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Posted on Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 01:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

drydock what are the dimensions of the engines?
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riccardo193
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Posted on Friday, October 09, 2009 - 03:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi i have a 12 volt couter rotating starter motor for sale for the perkins 6354 engine if any one is interested
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scottie5
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Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

looking for information on winterizing a 6.354.4
mostly on the intake salt water side, is there a drain plug or flush tube, the best way to inject antifreeze.
thanks
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BillMcGrath
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Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everyone, I have Perkins 6.354.4 turbocharged diesels in our boat. The starboard engine blew a check valve (one of 6 on the side of the injector pump), which my mechanic replaced. We started the engine and it ran fine for the few minutes we took to adjust the idle, then I shut it off. I tried to start it a couple of days ago, but it just turned over, not even a cough like it was trying to start. Air in the fuel line? Injector pump? My mechanic is out of the country for the next couple of weeks.
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CLIFF STAPELLA
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Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I HAVE A PERKINS 6-354 THAT HAS WHITE SMOKE COMING OUT THE EXHAUSE, BUT THE ENGINE RUNS OK. i HAVE TWINS AND THE OTHER ENGINE DOES NOT HAVE WHITE SMOKE? aNY IDEAS? tHIS HAS ALWAYS DONE THIS SINCE i OWNED THE BOAT.
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doyle
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Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Im looking for a 1965 mercedes heat exchange manifold marine.need badly any advice where to find would be appreciated.thanks
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drdetroit
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Registered: 12-2009
Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CLIFF...
Does your 'smoker' keep up with it's twin as far as power & temp? I put one together and had injection timing late one tooth, hard to start, tons of white smoke but warmed up and ran good, Does the smoke clear once warmed? could be low compression.....
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drdetroit
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Posted on Monday, March 08, 2010 - 12:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

BILL..
Bleed - Bleed - Bleed, Perkins are a pain in the wazoo to get fuel to the injectors, Bleed the filter head, bleed the injection pump, Pump the hand primer, AND then crack the injector lines, spin the engine to push out any remaining air (air compresses in the injection pump and high pressure lines and will not build pressure to push the air through the injectors... Good luck.}

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