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Gray 1 cyl. # 17T20846

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Larry Healey
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Username: mechman

Post Number: 28
Registered: 10-2003


Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2014 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Goodday I bought this last weekend at a local auction. It is in great condition & has compression--it has the drip oiler elbow blocked with a piece of wood,so I guess they had used a mixed fuel. it's missing the neddle valve & cover off the Krice carb I would appreciate finding the year it was made?? It will be for trade for a Canadian engine I don't have Or maybe to sell later. Larry Healey Campbellford,Ont.
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RichardDurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 3381
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Sunday, October 05, 2014 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Post or email a photo, I'll have model
and year mfgrd !


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RichardDurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 3384
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Friday, October 10, 2014 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Larry's photos

Gray Model "T" serial number 17T20846
Manufactured 1920.


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g2


g3


g4


These were great old marine engines,in factory
form they were a true two-three port design, they could be adjusted to run only as a two port or only as a a three port or the factory setting of both !



glgr




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miro forest
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Username: miro

Post Number: 773
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Friday, October 10, 2014 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One thing you can say for the Gray engines, is that they have very good brochure material. This one has a separate head, which for 1 cylinder Grays is not the usual thing. But it still uses a gear water pump, so it cannot be run in reverse for long.

But a nice find, for sure.

miro
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Larry Healey
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Username: mechman

Post Number: 31
Registered: 10-2003


Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 08:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Goodday again Thanks Richard for confirming the year! The 17 numbers in front of the "T"--do they mean 17 h.p.--seems like too much??? Larry
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Ernie
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Username: ernie

Post Number: 1894
Registered: 01-2002


Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Larry,
The info you need is here
Scroll down and there is a size HP chart
Yours is either a 7 or a 12 my guess from the S/N is a 7
Hope this helps
Ernie
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RichardDurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 3385
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Saturday, October 11, 2014 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Larry

The second number from left is 7 that's the horse
power !

Taking a closer look at your engine is see the blocked off elbow for engine oiler that you had mentioned, oilers on Model T's were gone by 1913 so the manufacturing date of your engine would be 1910, one of the very early engines.
Sorry for not thinking about that detail earlier !

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Robert
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Username: robert

Post Number: 649
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have plate 14T4067 here. It was off a 14hp twin.
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Robert
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Username: robert

Post Number: 742
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2016 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Larry, would you mind taking a few closeups of the water pump and the inlets and outlets? My "T" has a broken off port on the top of the pump and I see some heavy soldering in your photos.

Gray believed strongly in the rotary pump from the literature that Richard has kindly posted in the past, but I get the impression the vibration was too much for those little pumps and their little fittings. Perhaps Gray forgot that owners might run their engines out of adjustment and with poorly supported piping as well!

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