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Robert
Posted on Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...and what might be missing from it?
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Ernie
Posted on Thursday, May 06, 2004 - 07:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks complete to me. I had on on a Gray 4 hp "R" and it worked fine.
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Robert.
Posted on Friday, May 07, 2004 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Ernie, do we know when these were replaced with the Krice?
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Ernie
Posted on Friday, May 07, 2004 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No I don't. However the ones that I have seen were on engines with gib key flywheels so I guess it was early on. Richard can you help here?
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richarddurgee
Posted on Friday, May 07, 2004 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As far as I have been able to discern Gray only used the above style carb in 1908 the first year of producing their own engines.

1908

Gray instruction manuals 1909 only discussed Shebler and Krice Carbs.
This is from the 1910 Gray parts manual.

gray1910
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Richard Day
Posted on Friday, May 07, 2004 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard, I love the Krice ad about saving gasoline. Sound like a lot of other gas saver products of the last century. Ernie told me how to assemble the Krice correctly but I cannot remember what he said. Goes with the age group I guess. Glad you and Sue got home safe.
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bill schaller
Posted on Friday, May 07, 2004 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So, does anyone know when they stopped using the Krice?
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Robert
Posted on Saturday, May 08, 2004 - 01:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard, the Gray eminence! Thank you, I thought you would have the answer. Now, since I don't need this carb, does anyone else need one of these to complete an engine?
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craasch
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Posted on Sunday, November 21, 2004 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Robert:
Do you still have the Gray Carb?
Carl Raasch
Middleton Idaho
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robert
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Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 01:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Carl,

Yes, I do, do you have the 1908 engine for it? There is most a two cylinder Model S as well, but one cylinder is badly corroded. Even has the big ol' timer.
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craasch
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Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Robert:
Yes I do have a 1907 Gray Engine and have a
picture showing the Gray Carb.
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Bill S
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Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is my gray with the gray carb

gray carb
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craasch
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Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bill:
Your engine looks exactly like mine. I don't
know about sending pictures.
Where are you located?
Carl
Phone 208 585 2080
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love
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Posted on Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To other enthuists: For the first time in 36 years I have tried and succeeded in running my two cylinder Gray with a Shieber carb. Not a great run but two moments of one and then two minutes of smoke and noise! I used two Ford Model T buzz coils but think I could just as well use two regular coils instead. Several setup conditions to change and I will try again. Regards to all Byron<barhr@cytechcis.net>
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jb_castagnos
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Registered: 07-2002
Posted on Sunday, November 28, 2004 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Most of these engines were set up for buzz coils. If it has points they will function as a breaker point system with a condensor and coil but timing will be affected, breaker points fire when they open, buzz coils fire when the points close. If your engine is reversable, it may be difficult to reverse with the breaker point setup.
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bruce
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Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2005 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

By chance would any one have one of the Gray made carbs for sale or trade to complete a Model "R" packaged engine. Ernie;JB; anyone?? This one is identical to Richards 5/7/04 photo post including the aluminum shroud around the timer gear.

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