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Bruce Ellis
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Posted on Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm researching what type of old style an engine I'd like in my 27 ft. Lucky Pierre dory. It will be used 75% of time on inland waters, 25% of time on the seas. It's a plywood made boat, waiting to be built. I love the old time dories, and luggers they used. But I don't want the hassel of the make-an-brake engines. Would love some ideas on middle aged three or four, L-head engines. I wan't to use the haul up shaft arangement. I don't want to use an outboard motor! The dory will be flat bottomed, and powered, no sails. Last but not least, I'd prefer diesel power. Thank You so much. Bruce.
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JohnSmietana
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Posted on Monday, December 06, 2004 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a 26'St Pierre,I had it built in Lunnenburg N.S. It is an exact replica of a boat buit in 1917.No plywood or fiberglass,even has sawn tree roots forthe ribs,squre cut nails for faseners.Got some of the prop.haulout parts from lunnenberg Foundry and made rest myself.The first I put in was a 1915 Kermath 20 h.p.4 stroke @ 1200 r.p.m.Was too much,then put in a 6-8 h.p. 1912 Kermath(1200RPM)ALSO A 4 stroke.It pushes the boat at hull speed(6 to 7 knots).Been a lot of fun,a real attention at shows.
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Andy Fletcher
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Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm gathering material to start my 20' Oregon Surf dory this spring. Nice thing is we have plenty of white oak in these parts (Ont,Canada) at reasonable price. I'm going marine ply all around with a layer of FG and a covered fordeck.

I'm following a Harry V Sucher plan from his Simplified Boatbuilding. I'm using an inboard well for outboard motor. Perhaps this would be more suitable for you. It goes between the second and third last frames although it does take up room limited in this type of boat. I'll use a rudder and permanent mount the outboard.

Since the boat will spend much time anchored offshore and accessed by inflatable dinky, a perm engine would be swamped in most cases and that was my main concern, even though I'll have a tarp, there may be times I'll lose it. Another reason is a perm engine is I think not a great advantage as the terminal hull speed is hardly over 6 knots for this type anyway. So an outboard starts to look better in that regard. OB's are very well made these days as well. Not like the starting problems and corrosion of 30 years ago. Maintenance is a take home job, very handy too.

My 2 sons and I will be like yourself mostly on the great lakes, but on occasion flatfish gigging off of NS, so that calls for seaworthiness.

I had the occasion to meet the crew and step into a sailing version of the St. Pierre that was built on Sucher's plan which I have. It was in the Toronto dockyard and he had just came back from the Azores. He increased the len 2 feet from the original plan which he says didn't affect characteristics at all.

Andy
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Peggy Burrus
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Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a 26ft St Pierre dory sailboat that I built I used a 5hp Nissian outboard. I want to sell the boat. Is anybody interested in knowing more.E-mail sisterocean@hotmail.com Thanks

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