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Daniel
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi ive just been given a st p55m engine it was sat in my mates field in some bushes i wanted to know some history about them and hoe much its worth. its siezed solid at the moment. any help would be greatfull thanks
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peter ogborne
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Daniel...........sorry to say it but $25 a Tonn or whatever the going rate for scrap is .
Seriously though ,why dont you restore it ,they are a nice little engine and look great at displays . There is a wealth of info on this site re gards history and there are several people who would gladly advise you .
Dont Scrap it .....think about restoreing it .
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rbprice
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter is absolutely right about restoring it Daniel. I'm in the middle of restoring one right now and so is Tim Mulvey who is in or near Sidney.

Peter is an expert and there are lots of other folks out there with P-55 or P-5 engines. Parts are relatively easy to find, particularly in Australia, not so here in the States.

Go for it!!!

Bob
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Tim Mulvey
Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 07:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's the Rolls Royce of putts putts (2 strokes) according to many old timers. Often described as being over engineered, making them much more resilient and smoother running than many other two strokes.

They have a lot of brass fittings that can be restored very nicely making the engine a real showpiece.

In respect of the seized pistons you just need a lot of patience - I'm dealing with two such engines at the moment. You can have a series of jobs running in parallel at the same time and just move from one to the other.

Where are you located? I have tracked down about 30 owners of Stuarts across Australia - most running and some being restored and know of a few in other countries.

I can give you a few leads on how to track down some owners in your neck of the woods eg start by doing a search on the keyword "Stuart" on this site.

Currently, I have compiled a lot of Stuart research material - instruction manuals, product booklets, magneto guide books, magazine articles (from 1930's to now).

I'm interested in any Stuart material - copies thereof not just originals - will swap etc. - not just marine engines but also lighting plants etc any Stuart product - I'm hooked!!

DOES ANYONE HAVE COPIES OF "STUART NOTES" - a newsletter that was issued to dealers etc in the 1950's and 1960's????

Stuart Turner Limited first traded in 1906 making model steam engines, then the Stuart Stellar motor cyle in 1911, nuts and bolts during WW1 and first produced a two stroke engines for electricity generating plants and other stationary engine applications from 1919 with 1500 produced from then till 1928 when the first inboard marine engine was produced.

Marine engine production peaked in the 1950's at 2000 per month and ceased in the 1970's. By that time the Stuart range of pumps were so popular that the company chose to concentrate on that product.

Send me your engine number and I can give to a rough guide as to when it was produced.
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daniel
Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi tim im in the uk thanks for the info the engine number is P55M/26774 i think i will have a go at rebuilding it has anyone go any info on striping and rebuilding one
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Tim Mulvey
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 07:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your engine was made between June 1943 and Oct 1949. The number is towards the very end of the range of engine numbers that I have for that period. On the basis that equal numbers of engines were made each year over that period I would approximate its year of manufacture as almost certainly being in 1948.

Check the "Stuart" messages on this site for various links. Also, the Thames Vintage Boat Club (search on www using the term "Thames Traditional Boat Rally" as their page is attached to that site - from memory) has some material including a P66 instruction book available at a small cost (its better than the P55 one as its got about 15 extra pages and more diagrams. Both engines are the same but for the carby and maybe the head - see discussion about this issue on this site.

Join a stationary engine club and you will be amongst restoration experts plus a lot on that broad subject is on the web.

Doing the research and talking to others is a great part of the exercise - see technical section on this site and search on stationary engines - many, many websites with technical info and restoration tips eg search on "seized pistons" "rust removal". On the latter I posted a list of links on this site - use keyword search on my name as author or the term "rust removal" or similar term. It just takes time - there are no short cuts to experience - I must sound like your father??

Try to track down parts at an old hire boat shed/marine engineer etc. (eg gaskets or cut your own) Check out this site for messages from UK owners of Stuarts - one guy has a hire fleet. A lot of Stuarts in the UK as that is the home country of the manufacturer.

If you approach this the right way you will have at least 15 tasks you will be doing concurrently - whether in the workshop or one the telphone/internet etc. - your patience and perserverence will be rewarded.

Before long you will have another engine......you will bee hooked - just like the rest of us.

Any problems post a message.
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peter ogborne
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Daniel ......strange isn't it . Not long after reading your post and answering it i heard of a Stuart Turner that was part of a deceased estate . I went and had a look at it . Turned out to be a P55 . It belongs in a boat '' Juno'' . I have contacted the deceased 's son . You feel like a bloody vulture when you do this . Anyway it might be available , might take the lot, bloody boat and all !
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Aaron
Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have 2 P55 engines one has a readable nameplate on it, but the second doesn't.
First:
P55MC27722 8HP @1500RPM

Second:
P66D 22B777 10HP @ 1650RPM is what i think it should read, as i can only see the imprints of the numbers

Both are in restorable order, and will be restored after my 2 P5's
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Tim Mulvey
Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 06:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter, I'm sure that the old fellow would be glad that his boat and engine will be appreciated.
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Daniel
Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well i am going to try and rebuild mine but where can i get parts to do it? im in the uk thanks
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Tim Mulvey
Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 06:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fairways Marine handles all Stuart stuff www.fairwaysmarine.com

For the main bearings go to a bearings supply. Also, you can cut your own gaskets.

Try some old hire boatsheds or marine engineers.

Buy an old seized engine and canabalise it for the best parts etc etc etc

Go to swap meets. Join a Club. Develop networks with other Stuart owners and marine engine restorers.

Never say no to any sort of engine or parts that are free as they are a tradable commodity to get what you want etc etc.

Go to www.thamesvintageboatclub.com website for details of some engines, parts and instructions books that are available.

Did you do a keyword search of this site???
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Ernie
Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tim,
Great comments for any old engine nut. Humm, making gaskets, bearing supply house, old boatyards, retired folks from the boating trade, networks (who you know), trading stuff, you can always throw away the free stuff if it really was junk, but there is a saying here in the states "one mans junk another mans treasure" and of course searching on OME.
Neat stuff Tim and thanks
Ernie
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John Hampton
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 05:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can anyone tell me the age of the engine in the boat I have just bought (14foot clinker launch), the engine is a Stuart Turner P5M serial Number 10A431
General background the boat, Water Beetle II was bought from somebody on the Thames.
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Tim Mulvey
Posted on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The P5M series of engines Serial Numbers 10A001 to 10A999 were manufactured during the period April 1958 to April 1963, so based on your serial number 10A431 I would estimate it as being manufactured about midway during the aperiod, approx towards the end of 1960.
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John Hampton
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2003 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have been offered a P5 engine with dynastarter, but the present owner removed it from his boat without making a circuit diagram or writing down which colour leads went where, can anyone supply this information before I part with cash?
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David Stott
Posted on Monday, September 01, 2003 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

John, I have a P55 with dynastart. Mine came with cut wires and proved not too hard to reconnect. Mine has a non standard cutout but I can give you a diagram of how it is wired. There is a wiring diagram for dynastart in the P55 manual which I can send you. Don't let abscence of connections stop you from buying. Send me your email address to "David_Stott@national.com.au" if you need this info.
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paul_brooking
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Daniel (and everyone else) have been a bit busy for a while ansd not looked in here.

I have a P55
You can get a manual from www.semidiesel.com they have called it s55.
I made a simple tool with two ball bearings to form copper strip into rings so I could make a head gasket using ordinary gasket paper.
or you can get a new one from fairways.

Im on the Isle of wight, Where are you ?

Cheers Paul
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Tim Mulvey
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

John,

As you are in the UK you should be able to get access to a back issue of the Practical Boat Owner issue no. 14 for Feb 1968 wherein at pp.60-62 is a comprehensive article on Getting the Best Out of Your Dynastart. It includes an actual picture of the wiring, with each wire labelled and an explanation that can assist anyone (even me) to wire up a dynastart. Good luck.

Information courtesy of the Library Resources at the Australian Heritage Fleet.
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garyquayle
Posted on Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi guys/gals
i came across your site looking for more info on my engine.i have a stuart turner p66d 10hp with dynastart. i bought my boat and the wires have been butchered big style! im confident to do the re wire but a wireing diagram wld be helpful...any one got one laying about? i have a manual for the engine from thames vintage boat club.but this doesnt go into detail on wireing..can you help? many thanks
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julian freeman
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 03:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Could someone help???
I have a P5ma single cylinder 2 stroke in my boat,
the engine starts ok and runs fine, but if the engine has been running for a while and is nice and warm,whilst cruising for example and you shut down the throttle and attempt increase the revs again (i.e when changing from forward to reverse)the engine dies. This is a pain as you can imagine when mooring.Is my engine finished or something simple? Any ideas would save me crashing into my moorings again!!
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Norman Poole
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 06:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello everybody,

I have just bought a 12ft motor launch with a Stuart Turner R3M 1.5 hp motor. Engine No. 40R 779. Any ideas when this was manufactured?

Regards,

Norman
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J.B. Castagnos
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Julian, to reverse properly your engine has to have good compression and has to be free spinning. When you bounce the engine against compression it should bounce back and forth. If the compression is low it will continue in the same direction, if there's too much friction it will try to return but stop. If it's been rebuilt tight bearings can be a problem. Replacement rings usually have too much wall pressure, I usually cut about .030" out of the inside. If you have a gear driven timer, be sure the timer is centered for equal advance in both directions, if it's not it will change diretions one way but not the other.
J.B.
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Bill
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is a Stuart 5 HP on Ebay. #2470256649
I do not know anything about it or who owns it.
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julian freeman
Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mr Castagnos, Thank you for the reply concerning my P5 engine. I have spoken to the previous owner of my boat, who owned it for the best part of 30 years who confirmed that the engine has not been rebuilt. He said that he never touched the throttle and always ran the engine at half too two thirds power. As you will know i am sure that when you go from drive too neutral the throttle disengages so there is no reason to alter the throttle position. The engine seemed ok when i purchased the boat (Haylcon 23) 6 months ago, but it is only recently started with this niggling problem. Could it be that as i have altered the long unchanged throttle postion that i have upset the carb? Would adding some Redex to the fuel and cylinder do any harm?
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J.B. Castagnos
Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm not familiar with the Stuart, I haven't seen this type throttle linkage, the info I was offering is for marine engines in general, maybe someone who knows these engines better can offer more detailed help. Also make sure you are not trying to reverse while your foward speed is too great, the prop will try to drive the engine forward.
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peter ogborne
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 07:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A feature of the Stuart engines is the ability to go from full ahead to full astern without changing the throttle setting . This is because the gear box incorporates an epicyclic gear train and cone clutch . Handy they tell me for manouvering.
Julian ,sometimes the very simple things are the problem. If your engine starts ok there can't be a major fault .So lets look at some other problems . If your instalation is an old one then it is a fair bet that that over the years and perhaps an over generous oil mix the exhaust system could be clogged up with carbon . A classic case is the engine and boat that i recently bought. It is a P55m and has a one inch copper exhaust system with deformed bends . This ends up in a fully sealed brass muffler . The system could not breathe.
Also check your spark plugs, they may foul after running for a while, hence you have problems getting away
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julian freeman
Posted on Sunday, April 04, 2004 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter Ogborne/Mr castagnos, thankyou gents for thinking over my 2-stroke problem. I have forgotten to mention the fact that once the warm engine has died on me if i then turn it over it back fires and then if left for 5-10 minutes it will start. Does this shead any light onto the problem? Points?, timming?, carb?, or as you suggest exhaust clogged with carbon?
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peter ogborne
Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Julian.....sounds like you may have float valve leak . The spindle attached to the carburetor float . Have a look at it and you will see a tapered end that seats when the float bowl is at the right level. These do loose their seating ability ...just lapp it in again ,use some metal polish [ Brasso] . You should also check the float , put it in some hot water ,submerge it and watch for bubbles, if this occurs there is a leak and it will have to be soldered.
Backfiring would indicate excess fuel entering the crankcase and then igniting when you attempted to start again.
Just my thoughts .
A couple of good indications are ''Popping back''.This indicates a situation where you have too much air in the induction charge, ie too rich a mixture,choked jetor the Air cap needs ajusting [ the air cap is the knurled brass screw cap with the holes in it at the carby intake].
Failure to two strioke.....Too rich a mixture,choked exhaust ,too much oil in fuel mix.
Hope you have success.
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Paul Usher
Posted on Friday, April 09, 2004 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a P55ME and would like to get it going again. I am currently restoring the boat it came out off. Does anyone have a wiring diagram as the HT leads and the 2 leads from the WICO built-in housing are in want of a connector of some sort. Should it be 2 coils?

Any info gratefully received so I can bring this engine back to life.
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Tim Mulvey
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 07:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll send you the Wico Series A magneto guide in a ZIP file.
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Sergio Marioto
Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2004 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi! My name is Sergio Marioto and i'm from Brazil. I have a Wolseley stationary engine and i need the WICO series A magneto guide. Could you help me !?

Thanks a lot.

Sergio Marioto
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Sergio Marioto
Posted on Tuesday, June 01, 2004 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi ! My name is Sergio Marioto and i'm from Brazil. I have a Wolseley starionay engine, WLB8 model. I need the WICO series A magneto guide. Could you help me !?

Thanks a lot.

Sergio.
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Tim Mulvey
Posted on Wednesday, June 02, 2004 - 07:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sergio,

I've sent a zipfile containing the Wico Series A magneto guide to you.
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steven john page
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Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2008 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everybody, ive had my p5me running for half an hour on my workshop bench after a decoke and noticed a top end nocking, i removed the spark plug and rocked the flywheel back and forth at T.D.C. and there is definatly a tapping or docking coming from either the small end or the big end . in any case they proberbly need replacing as the old girl is 53 years young. any suggestions where i can purchase replacements.
also my lucas regulator has ceased top function, andthought about replacing it with a lucas regulator from a british leyland mini ,can it be done and how can i rewire my circuit to the mini regulator as there are more terminals on the mini reg when you compare the two. any feedback on either of my dilemas will be greatfully recieved. regards steve.
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terry harris
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anyone help me to find lists and parts for stuart turner p65 engine as fairways engineers no longer exist.thanks.
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Mike Hodgson
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Posted on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dynastart info and more can be found on
http://hodgm.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/3.html?submenu=2
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denise
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I need help with stuart turner 1.5 hp 2 stroke inboard please. Denise
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steven john page
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Hello Denise,what is the problem that you require help with,? steve
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George Martin
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Very old thread!!
Try starting another one.
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jamesfagan
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Hi i loocking for 2 sets of breakers for sturtturner p55 aney 1 now where i will get them thank you
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storey
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Hi i have a p55 and having problems with it one of the cylinders keeps cutting out then back in then out then back in and so on. can anybody shed me some light as to what i do from here
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Aron Oddi
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I have recently revived a boat project dormant for 10 years. Motor is twin two stroke as recoditioned by profesional at time.Helped mount and start initialy , remembering how difficult it was to start . Saying that onced achieved and ran 33-1 fuel oil ratio ,was a real winner.
know with reco r2 mag. can only get explosion ,won't run wouldlike any help.mounting motor at boat builder very shortly would like to have running.
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Arthur DeKalb
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 07:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Glad to see this thread is still alive. I TOO have recently bought a Stuart P-55 ME. It was taken apart by the previous owner, to do a rebuild. Now I have boxes of pieces to identify. DOES ANYONE in the North East USA have a P-55 that is complete, that I could look at or get a few detail pictures of? I will most likely be needing to do a cylinder sleeve. Would like to correspond. Art DeKalb NY State
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David Myers
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aron, I assume you mean by Explosion, that the engine is Back-Firing.. This indicates that the Magneto timing is not set correctly. Loosen the Magneto retaining clamp, slide it back a little and rotate the coupling 180 degrees and see how that goes. If timing is set up right they are very easy to start.
Hope this helps.
Cheers

Dave.
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Peter Ogborne
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Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Art ,I would be pleased to help with pictures etc . It is not impossible to resleeve .I may be able to connect you with someone who has done this . The problem I have found with Stuart Turner engines is the needle roller big end bearings ......I have never yet been able to find a source to obtain a replacement ,maybe in the USA !
My P5 is complete and runs
You probaly dont recall but you assisted me years ago with out board info......I thought you were an out board only man!!
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Tony4119
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Peter, I looked into the big end problem some time back and it does not seem unsurmountable with limited tooling.
The outer and inner runways can be carbon steel/silver steel. this is available in 2" dia.
Caged rollers are available off the shelf 3.5mm or 4.0 mm. The most difficult part is lapping after runways have been hardened, but it looks possible in the lathe.
Tony.
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Peter Ogborne
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Posted on Friday, June 10, 2011 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your right Tony .....anything is possible
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Arthur DeKalb
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Peter, Thank you for the response. I do have a stuck engine block that I am trying to salvage . See another thread on this board. If not I think I can find a local shop that can re sleeve. NOW I am having difficulty figuring out how the throttle rod in the transmision tower works. There may be something missing in there. Please tell me where I can get a parts diagram to see how it is supposed to work. Is Fairways Marine still in opperation , for parts and books? Artstuart transmissionastuartshiftb
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David Myers
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Posted on Friday, June 10, 2011 - 07:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Pete, Tony & Art,

Talk to Malcom McKay in Narooma NSW. Mal told me he has done a couple of P55 Big Ends and has sourced a caged roller assembly and just requires light machining to the Rod and all is well. I believe that is all that's required.

Email carmelmckay6@bigpond.com

Phone 02 44762790

Cheers,

Dave
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David Myers
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Art, There is a Rod assembly missing from the hole at the front of the gear shift tower.
I have one of these gearboxes but cant get to it til about next Monday and will take a few photos.
Fairways Marine went out of Business about 4 years ago or more. There is a very good Yahoo Group for Stuart Engines.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stinfoexchange/

Very helpful and a really good source of parts etc. They have all the various manuals in their Files section..
Will get back to you with photo if I have the complete assembly.

Cheers,

Dave
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David, I have the rod, but where it goes in the hole parts are missing to make the rod go back and forth. Inside I can see a small eccentric with a 1/4" projection that is eccentric like a small crankshaft, that would acctuate the rod, if some part was there to do that. I look forward to your help and information. DOES anyone have a diagram showing what is inside this housing? Art Throttle linkageathrottl linkage b
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Art, ST's generally had an overide in neutral to drop the engine speed for gear change, though you probably know that already. I'll look inside the P5 type I have here to see what system is used in that. It may give you some ideas
Tony.
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Tony, and ALL, YES I am aware that the ST P-55 had some sort of method to drop engine speed to idle when the shift went into neutral. That and what ever is INSIDE that shift housing to work the throttle rod is the information, and parts I am missing. A Parts diagram would be great help. Art
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David Myers, PLEASE see if you can take pictures of the insides of the throttle linkages for me. ANYONE: IS A Diagram or parts picture available somewhere for the throttle unit? PLEASE HELP. Art
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Hello Arthur, i have just stripped down my F/R selector and photographed the parts . if you are interested i can send them to you , send me your email address and i will post them ,regards steve.
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Hello Steven, I thought I had posted my E-Mail but I do not see it here, so here goes again> adekalb@precisionservoutboard.com

Is there any difficulty removing the F/R tower housing from the top of the transmission? Is there a trick or procedure? Thanks , Art
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Hello Arthur,there are no difficulties in removing the f/r tower just undo the four bolts at the base and it should lift straight off the transmition exposing the cam on the underside thats assuming its the same as mine,but do make sure its in neutral before removing the bolts.I will email the photos to you tonight ,there is a sequence in them to give you an idea how they come apart and this should give you an idea of what is missing . regards steve.
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Hello Art,

Great work on the Cylinder removal.
Sorry about being long winded getting back to you. Have finally been able to uncover the gearbox but regretfully the throttle rod and fittings are missing. Looks like Steve is on the right track and hopefully will get you out of trouble. Good luck with the overhaul.

Cheers,

Dave
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Steven, While trying to look at the pictures you sent, I inadvertently deleted them. Please resend. Sorry for the extra work. ALSO, if possible show what up inside the F/R tower actuates the throttle rod. That is what is missing in mine. I did not see that in the pictures, though it may have been there and did not see it before I lost them. Thank you, Art
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Hello Arthur, would you please let me know if you recieved the second batch of photos , if not then i will resend them + a few more, regards steve
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Steve, ALL pictures received. My shift housing and throttle are a little different than yours. See pictures in above previous posting. I have taken some pictures , and will post some. It still is not clear what is missing from mine. Will try and get to the picture posting in the next couple days. Please send me a direct E-Mail, and I will send all the pictures I took of the shift/throttle pieces. Thank you, Art
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Hi Arthur, thanks for the reply, my e-mail address is as follows:- sjpagejasper@tiscali.co.uk
regards steve.

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