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andrew
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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Dear Sirs,

I have a 1930, 36 foot Blanchard raised-deck cruiser.

The Carpenter's Logs show she was built with a Red Wing gas engine producing 70 HP. I assume this must be a 6 cylinder motor?

Do you know what model of Red Wing motor, manufactured on the late 1920s or early 30s would have produced this horsepower?

Do you have any technical information on this motor...

I am trying to complete the history of this wonderful boat.

Denny Newell




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Bill Schaller
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Red Wing made the following 70 hp engines in 1930:
Arrow 6, 40-80 hp (6cyl)
Arrow Jr XJ 35-70 hp (6cyl)
Arrow special 6 45-75 hp (6cyl)
Big Chief Special 4 75-90 (4cyl)

and they had a few more added as the 30's went on.

the Arrow Jr XJ 35-70 hp (6cyl) was made from 1930 to 1935, and 66 were made.

that's my best guess.
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durene anderson
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Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a old red wing inboard motor i would like to sell,it is original condition, stored in a shed. I would like to know the value of it, and our there any buyers out there for it? The plate on the engine says red wing.
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andrew
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Post Number: 1023
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2005 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Durene,

I'm sure there are collectors that would be interested in your engine.


You could post it in our classifieds.

You will need a more complete description of the engine and photos if possible. How many cylinders, what model (might be on the tag), etc. You can post photos with the ad, and/or post them here. If you have trouble posting pictures I can do it for you.
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billschaller
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Post Number: 110
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Durene,

email me, and I will try and help you.

wschall@charter.net
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TIM SWAIN
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Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 07:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I HAVE A FOUR CYL RED WING ENGINE REDUCTION BOX , ENGINE PLATE STATES THOROBRED MOTOR, 90966 XH, 25 TO 45 HORSEPOWER, I WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO HELP ME IDENTIFY THE YEAR OF THIS ENGINE, THANKS TIM SWAIN
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tim swain
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I STILL SEEK INFO ON YEAR OF MANUFACTURE OF MY REDWING THOROBRED ENGINE 4/CYL ,MODEL #90966XH,25 TO45 HORSEPOWER, ANY INFO GREATLY APPRECIATED, THANKS TIM SWAIN
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billschaller
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Post Number: 141
Registered: 12-2003


Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tim, here is your info

sold to Motors Specialty Limited, Auckland NZ, based on a xah Waukesha block,
shipped on 8/21/46.

Here is info scanned off the engine flyer:




Specifications Red Wing Arrowhead "50" Gasoline Marine Engine
FOR MEDIUM DUTY

GENERAL-L-head type, water cooled, 4 cylinder, 4 cycle. CARBURETOR-11 updraft type with approved flame ar- CYLINDER & CRANKCASE-Cast integral with crankcase restor and crankcase ventilator.
from high grade nickel content iron. Rugged structure. REVERSE GEAEr,-Planetary high backing ratio. Large size Head detachable with controlled turbulence chambers. gives ample reverse capacity.

CRANKSHAFT-SAE 1043 steel heat-treated, 2" journals. REDUCTION GEAR-Water cooled, integral with reverse,
Drilled for pressure lubrication extending direct to 2:1 or 3:1 ratios available.
reverse gear. THRUST BEARINGS-Large double raw ball thrust built in. CONNECTING RODs-1-bearn drop forgings carefully bal- FLYWHEEL-Fully enclosed.
aneed with adjustable bearings 21 x lyal.

.MAIN BEARINGS-Steel back, babbitt lined, adjustable. POWER TAKE-OFF-Plain pulley,or clutch type available. Front 21/211, center 21/2", rear 27/al. ROTATION-Left hand, requiring right hand propeller. VALVES-Intake: nickel iron; Exhaust: silicrome. Diameter WEIGHT-600 lbs. direct drive, 640 lbs. with reduction.
clear 13A,.
FLANGE SHAFT COUPLING-lYs", other sizes optional. PISTONS-Gray iron, niatched sets with four rings and full
floating piston pins, 1-7/64, diameter. PROPELLER RECOMMENI)ATIONS-Three blade 13" x 14" or 14" x 14" in fast boat types for engine speeds over EXHAUST MANIFOLD-Water cooled, with flange for 2' 2.000. 1611 x 1211 and 181 x 1211 for cruiser types.
pipe. Intake efficiently heated. With two to one reduction, three blade 22" x 16".

TIMING GEARS-Large face, helical cut. DIMENSIONS-Overall length direct drive 41", width be- FIRING ORDEP-1-2-4-3. tween bolt centers 161/.", height above crank center 18-9/161, depth below crank center 7-11/161.

ELECTRIC STARTING--6-volt heavy duty starter and gen- erator.

COOLING SYSTEM-Gear or rubber impeller type water PUMP.

LUBRICATION-Pressure feed to all working parts with Red Win
submerged, positive gear type oil pump. Red Wing Marine Corporation 1000 Levee St., Red Wing, Minnesota, U.S.A.
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billschaller
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Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)




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billschaller
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Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I rescanned the test so it is a little better.

GENERAL-L-head type, water cooled, 4 cylinder, 4 cycle.

CYLINDER & CRANKCASE-Cast integral with crankcase from high grade nickel content iron. Rugged structure. Head detachable with controlled turbulence chambers.

CRANKSHAFT-SAE 1045 steel heat-treated, 2" journals.
Drilled for pressure lubrication extending direct to reverse gear.

CONNECTING RODS-I-beam drop forgings carefully bal-
anced with adjustable bearings 2' x 11/2'.

MAIN BEARINGS-Steel back, babbitt lined, adjustable. Front 21/2", center 21/n", rear 17/sI.

VALVES-Intake: nickel iron; Exhaust: silicrome. Diameter clear 13/el.

PISTONS-Gray iron, matched sets with four rings and full floating piston pins, 1-7/64, diameter.

EXHAUST MANIFOLD-Water cooled, with flange for 2' pipe. Intake efficiently heated.

TIMING GEARS-Large face, helical cut. FIRING ORDER-1-2-4-3.

ELECTRIC STAP.TING-6-volt heavy duty starter and gen- erator.

COOLING SYSTEM-Gear or rubber impeller type water PUMP.

LUBRICATION-Pressure feed to all working parts with submerged, positive gear type oil pump.


CARBURETOR-1' updraft type with approved flame arrestor and crankcase ventilator.

REVERSE GEAR-Planetary high backing ratio. Large size gives ample reverse capacity.

REDUCTION GEAR-Water cooled, integral with reverse, 2:1 or 3:1 ratios available.

THRUST BEARINGS-Large double row ball thrust built in. FLYWHEEL,-Fully enclosed.

POWER TAKE-OFF-Plain pulley,or clutch type available. ROTATION-Left hand, requiring right hand propeller. WEIGHT-600 lbs. direct drive, 640 lbs. with reduction. FLANGE SHAFT COUPLING-11/81, other sizes optional. PROPELLER RECOMMENDATIONS-Three blade 13" x 14"
or 14" x 14" in fast boat types for engine speeds over 2,000, 161 x 121 and 18, x 121, for cruiser types. With two to one reduction, three blade 22" x 16'.

DIMENSIONS-Overall length direct drive 41", width be- tween bolt centers 161/4", height above crank center 18-9/16', depth below crank center 7-11/161.
Red Wing Marine Corporation

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