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nittro
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Username: nittro

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Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If anyone could point me in the right direction for info on the launch or the motor it would be appreciated.
The launch is approximately 26 feet in length with a 6 foot beam. The transom has been replaced and may have been at the loss of some length. The planking is purported to be cypress.
A number of owner modifications and repairs were made over the years.
The engine is without any visible markings except for the pump plate.
There may be some ID numbers/letters on the engine but I didn't crawl into the filth to investigate. The transmission cover plate was marked E4C3.
Please feel free to email me at jerry.mitrovich@sympatico.ca
Thank you in advance.
Jerry

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scott_n
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Posted on Monday, January 05, 2009 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice boat the engine look's like a Kermath
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Steve Fox
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Posted on Friday, January 09, 2009 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jerry

Detective 101. If you're with Sympatico, you live in Canada. If have a lake boat, you're from Ontario, or at least the boat is. Given the solid construction and the combing style, I might guess the boat is a Gidley, from the Gidley Boat Works in Orillia. If the engine is a Kermath model 20 or so, which appears to be the case , the launch is probably about 1924-1929. It appears to be in very good shape. Gidley had their plate screwed into the hull on the outside plank about amidships. There may still be screw holes where the name went, unless the plank was replace. Gidley boats were big and solid, as they were supposed to be used on Lake Simcoe. Gidley went under in the 1930's. Several of their launches are still around.
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miro
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Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like a solid boat in good shape.
The mid Ontario boats were seldom planked in cypress ( except for Dispro's) because the cypress will crack as soon as you look at it.
Cedar bottoms and mahogany sides are typical construction.
The flat low windshield sort of implies it was not used on Lake Ontario - they had bigger windshields.
The ribs look beefier than most Muskoka boats so it might have been a Georgian Bay boat.
Maybe you can examine the wood more closely to get a better idea of what it is.
You might ask the folks at the Grace and Speed Museum in Gravenhurst.
There are a couple of old guys there who might know.
Also try Ed Skinner at Duke Boatworks in Port Carling - His shop repairs wooden boats and he or his guys might have some info.
He can give you the names of other wooden boat repair shops that are still running.
Miro
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nittro
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Posted on Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the responses.
Got down and dirty a week ago and found a plate on the engine.
Miller Model E-4 Serial #2688
Bore 31/2
Speed 600
Stroke 5 ?!?!?!?!
Chicago USA

I attended the Toronto Boat Show and approached the ACBS booth and all restorers I could find. No one could identify the boat or offer any leads on the engine.
Internet searches have not yielded any information on the engine .
A number of interested parties have viewed the boat and none of them could ID the make. The one consensus was that it is probably from the 1910 to 1920 era.
One should note that the low windshield and prominent air intakes are not original to the vessel.
The best match I've made so far is this boat
http://www.boatrestoration.com/public/summary-info/summary.asp?ID=253

The family has resolved to put the boat up for sale to offset the owners nursing home expenses.

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