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th2oman
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Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2018 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I recently picked up a Waterman A4 engine. Any information and pictures would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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robert
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Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2018 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sure would be. If you need help posting them someone here will help.
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th2oman
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I was waiting for a response like that. I didn't have time to get any pictures until now. Here are a couple, it is rough shape, missing the carb and someone mounted a distributor instead of the original timer. Hoping for some pictures of other ones to compare to see what everything should look like. Was also wondering about the year of MFG. I really don't know too much about old marine engines, I'm more into hit and miss engines so any information would be awesome.
Thanks.

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ernie
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Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2018 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here are some pics for you
Hope this helps
Ernie

http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/1/105203.html
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th2oman
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Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2018 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Ernie
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jim_parrott
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Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2018 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

th2oman,

Looks like a nice engine with original paint.

I have one also. My pot metal bevel gears have deteriorated, and need replacing.

Jim
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rbprice
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Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2018 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jim - send me some pictures of the gears with some dimensions and I may be able to reverse engineer them and have some replacement gears made for you.
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ernie
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Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2018 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I got the replacement ones on Dick Day's engine from Boston Gear.
However that was about 20 years ago and I don't remember the specs other than they were stock gears.
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jim_parrott
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Posted on Monday, January 22, 2018 - 08:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Th2oman,

My A4, I am missing the timer cover, but you can see how the inside works.

Hope this helps.






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jim_parrott
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Posted on Monday, January 22, 2018 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bob and Ernie,

Pics of my Waterman gears,

Flywheel gear:

31 Teeth
3.460 OD
.530 Height
.680 Height with spacer
.430 Tooth face width
1.250 Bore

Timer side:

1.268 Height
.375 Bore

All measurements are approximate due to deterioration.

I will try to make some, if close replacements are not available. Have been reading up on it a little, and still stumped on few steps in the process but should be able to wing it.

Thanks for the support,
Jim




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rbprice
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Posted on Monday, January 22, 2018 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jim - I just looked through my Boston Gear catalogs and could not find anything that looked like those bevel gears. Why not put them into a box and send them to me and let me see what can be done to replicate them?
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jim_parrott
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Posted on Monday, January 22, 2018 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bob,

I just received some gear cutters in the mail this week and I think they will work fine. I'm gonna give it a shot. I'll keep you posted when I get started.

Thanks,
Jim
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th2oman
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Thanks Jim , could you take a good picture of the carburetor as well?

Bob, we might be looking at getting a new set of gears for ours as well. We have an idea of a guy that might be able to make them, but if not I might be interested you trying to make some if your still up for it.
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jim_parrott
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Posted on Tuesday, January 23, 2018 - 08:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Th2oman,

If you look at Keith and Dicks engines on the above link, you will see they have 1' Schebler D type carburetors. Mine had an Acorn carburetor that looks similar, with a integral check valve, probably not the original for my engine. I believe these are 3 port engines and if so do not need a check valve. Schebler's are easy to find and would be a good match for it. A right hand Lunkenheimer would also be a good fit.

Jim
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th2oman
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Posted on Tuesday, January 23, 2018 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks again Jim

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