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David Knutsen
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have come across an old Regal 8 hp gasoline engine.It was once used in a pilot boat on the western coast of Norway. According to the former owner, the engine was replaced with a 16 hp Rubb semidiesel in 1929.
The nameplate has no year of production, but the production number is 6569. Is it possible to find the year it was made by using this number? If anyone can help me I am very grateful.
David Knutsen, Karmøy Norway.
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andrew
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

David,

Is it a single cylinder or a two-cylinder?

What else does the nameplate say... is there a model number?

I doubt if anyone will be able to date the engine from the serial number... but if you can detirmine what model it is you can get the approximate date by detirming when that model was produced.

I have a 1927 catalog that shows the largest single cylinder engine as a 7HP Model EA: 5-1/4" bore by 6-1/2" stroke. The smallest two cylinder engine is the 8HP model NB: 4" bore x 4-1/2" stroke.

Can you post a picture?

Regards,
Andrew
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Tor Inge Dale
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 04:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andrew,
I'm a acquaintance of David...
The Regal he is describing has two cylinders and 4" bore. David has a lot of (digital) pictures of this engine...

Regards
Tor Inge
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David
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 06:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The motor is a 2 cylinder. I have measured the bore to be 4 1/2 ".have not checked the stroke yet.It is in fairly good condition after all these years.It is going to be restored by me and i am really looking forward to start on this job.The carburetor , magneto and the oiler is missing but if it is hopeless to find original parts I will use something else from the same period.

Thanks for any help.

regal1

regal2

regal3
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andrew
Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2001 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

David,
If it is 4-1/2" bore than it is the Model "UB" at 10HP, 4-1/2" x 5-1/2". See catalog pics below:

regalright

regalleft

Carburetors, magnetos, and oilers should be fairly easy to find. It is the cast parts that were specific to the manufacturer that are most difficult to find.

What else does it say on your nameplate?

Maybe someone else will have additional information.

Regards,
Andrew
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David
Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andrew.
Today I have taken off one of the cylinders and measured both bore and stroke.
Bore: 4 1/2"
Stroke: 4 1/2".
The nameplate says: Regal Gasoline Engines Manufacturers, Coldwater, Michigan, U.S.A.
H.P. 8
No 6569
The former owner says that as far as he can remember his father told him that the engine was replaced in 1929 , but brought to Norway around world war 1 and has been stored inside the boat shed loft ever since.
Regards David.

regal1

regal2
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andrew
Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2001 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

David,

Well.... the specs don't match the catalog info I have... but that isn't too suprising. The engine looks more like the 10HP Model UB (as shown above) that the 8HP Model NB.

The early builders were known for changing bore and RPM to acheive a higher rated HP. Maybe your engine is earlier than the catalog I have the that block was later rated at 10HP as I show it. Although the model UB has a 5-1/2" stroke not 4-1/2" as you have....

Maybe someone else can help out.

Regards,
Andrew
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david
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2001 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andrew.
Regal 8 hp-Norway.
The motor is fitted with a Paragon gear wich has this number : B M2B28A.
The base frame and the crankcase have numbers in the cast.
Base frame : TB02
Crankcase : TB 3
Can this be to some help finding the age?
I have not really started working on it yet.I have to finish another restoring project first,but it is difficult keeping my hands off.
Regards,
David
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farmer
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have a 2 cyl. inboard with for.&rev. trans. for sale. ex. shape good compression, copper water jackets, aprox. 1920
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bartropr
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Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What size is your engine - power and approximate overall dimensions?
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wnelso1
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Posted on Friday, May 01, 2009 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello,
I have a Regal 8HP two cylinder motor. It has been in the garage for many years and I am interested in finding any information about it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Wayne
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three504spd
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Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2012 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What's a motor like this go for?? Is there even a market for these?
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todd_vidgen
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Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2012 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As far as I am concerned , its not about buying and
selling to make money .Its about saving little pieces of history . and the places and times in which they were made and used.
Because if you dont know where you came from,
how do you know where your going?
Todd.
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ernie
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Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2012 - 04:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Todd
Very well put
Ernie
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richardday
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Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well said Ernie! My philosophy of life!!!
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bruce
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Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2012 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good on ya Todd! Money is more a ticket to life life in it self.
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three504spd
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Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2012 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the help. Figured i could get information on something Im not familiar with. However that seems to be to much to ask.
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bruce
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Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2012 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris, Re phrase your question. Do you have a Regal marine engine? Please post pictures. Yes there is interest in these engines as evidenced by the large number of subscribers to this site. Specific questions you may have will gladly be responded to.Sorry if you feel your initial inquiry was rudely responded to but subscribers here are sensitive to folks whose interests may be primarily for monetary gain.

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