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jb_castagnos
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Username: jb_castagnos

Post Number: 739
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I bought a crankshaft grinder in the spring, finally got to try it. Below is a link to the story on Harry's Page, it's a pain reducing all of the pictures.

http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112752
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rbprice
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Post Number: 411
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Monday, December 03, 2012 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

JB- did you completely fill the old keyway and then grind and re-mill the keyway?

As usual, a wonderful workman like job.

Thanks for sharing.
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jb_castagnos
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Post Number: 740
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Posted on Monday, December 03, 2012 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bob, first I welded in the keyways, then I put it in the lathe and took a light cut so everything was running true. Next step was to weld it, I did the flywheel area first, machined it true, then welded the mains and over the flywheel area. It filled in well, no voids. The keyways will have to be recut.
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johnny
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Post Number: 445
Registered: 03-2006


Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2012 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

JB, After you welded and grind the crank how straight did your mains and con-rod journal come out? Have much trouble with the crank moving due to stress from all the welding or did you do annealing of some kind after you roughed it?
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jb_castagnos
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Post Number: 741
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Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2012 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

THe cranks I've welded seem to be stable. These old shafts are fairly soft, I would compare them to cold roll. When you straighten one it doesn't take much over correction to get it right, they aren't springy. When welding I use the mig with 70,000 psi wire, I believe this is harder than the shaft but it's called mild steel. I was told it blends with the base metal and comes in somewhere between. The crank turns red while welding, I let it cool naturally, it machines well in the lathe. I've found that if you come back and touch up a spot it will cool fast and be hard, obvious when rough turning in the lathe. Some of the guys with the Dispros had cranks weklded at a crank shop, they all broke. My guess is that they used a hard material, the soft base metal flexed, the hard metal cracked and migrated on through.
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miro
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Post Number: 641
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2012 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The copper jacket Dispro engine cranks that were built up with flame spraying all ( or all that I know of) broke with a cone shaped fracture. That was after they had been running for a while (hours)
under full load. I suspect that if they were only show engines and run with no load, they might take a while to fracture - but they would fracture eventually.

The technique now is to have them chrome plated up and then ground to finish dimension. The plating shop can do up to about 75-80 thou.

miro
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jb_castagnos
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Username: jb_castagnos

Post Number: 743
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Posted on Friday, December 07, 2012 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Finished another one. This is for a YT-1. Dick Day sent it to a local crank shop, they didn't realize it was sleeve bearings, only ground the main area, no way to slip a .010" under bearing over the standard ends. I welded it, roughed it in in the lathe and ground it standard. Looks like it should work. cs
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richardday
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Post Number: 1034
Registered: 11-2003


Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2012 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Beautiful job. Thank you so much Dick

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