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enginehead
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Username: enginehead

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Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've read just about everything about Fageol engines and I need some help. My dad left me a 1957 Carlisle Deluxe Open Runabout with a Fageol 44 VIP engine. The body is in OK shape and it has a mahogany wood body. The engine is in decent shape but hasn't been run in probably about 20 years. Is this boat worth anything? I would appreciate any help that anyone can give.

Clark J.
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andrew
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Post Number: 1111
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

enginehead,

I don't know if anyone here can tell you if the boat is "worth anything"...

Somebody might be able to help you with the engine if you have specific questions.

I have the maintenance manual for the Fageol 44, I'm not sure about the "VIP" part...
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mike_obrien
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Registered: 08-2006
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Boys,

I am trying to learn about the Fageol 44 VIP. the 1957-8 years specifically. Perhaps even catch one if possible. Can you help?
Mike
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Richard Conway
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Posted on Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Greetings,

I have a Fageol outboard marine engine from the mid - late 50's. It came off our family boat in the late 60's and has been in the barn all these years. Who would want it?
Cordially,
Richard Conway
Western NC
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Toni Bagley
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Posted on Monday, May 26, 2008 - 04:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello -
I have two Fageol (Crosley) marine engines. They are brand new, zero-time, in their wooden crates stamped "Fageol 44 V.I.P. (Vertical Inboard Power)". I have photos. They have never been removed from their crates; the original instruction manuals are in the boxes. I would like to let any interested party know that they are available for sale. Also, I am interested in the history (age) of these beautiful engines. If interested, I can provide Serial #'s; engines are located in Michigan. Many Thanks, Toni Bagley, Ontario, California
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jimboy
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Registered: 02-2009
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm curious about the early 44 Cu.In. engines that were used in the 1950's in 48 Cu.In. hydroplanes. One difficulty with the original Crosley engine was the crankshaft strength. As I recall, the rule was: You had to have a crankshaft from an engine used in a generator built for the military (Navy?). Somebody had bought up the inventory and they were both scarce and expensive. Did Fageol build those generator?
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miro
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Post Number: 357
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 07:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For enginehead

The worth of a mahogany wooden boat with its engine and hardware is typically in the eye of the beholder.
Most folks only think of the maintenance headaches and the annual (careful) haulout and storage.

But in the eye of a discerning and skilled restorer and rebuilder, there is great potential.
All you have to do is take a look at the annual antique boat shows run the ACBS ( Antique and Classic Boat Society). There are chapters all over the country.

I've known people to buy a boat eg a Ditchburn for $50k and spend another $100k to have it completely restored. They end up with a boat that is worth maybe $65k to $75k on the open market.
But they have something they really want (need?)

I'm sure you've seen the same thing for old cars - heck old anything except old people - we're virtually worthless when we get really old and antique.

Ditchburn boats by the way are the one of the most beautiful old wooden boats ever made. If you ever get to see the video - Dream Boats of Muskoka - you'll see what I mean.

If you want to establish a market price - get some good pictures and post it on eBay - sort of like going fishing - you've gotta get some bait out there. Or take it to one of the ACBS Boat Shows and see if anyone is interested.

But my own sense in the present economic circumstances is that you're better to wait a couple of years and then try it.

miro
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58coltvip
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Registered: 06-2009
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm looking for a Fageol 44 VIP engine or any parts, or any information that might be useful. You can contact me at 330-607-5065 or [email protected] my name is greg thanks
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Toni Bagley
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Posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have two Fageol 44 VIP engines for sale, new in original wooden factory crates. Cannot locate installation/maintenance manual now. Anyone know where I can find one? I'd like to have one to include with the engines.

Hello, Greg ...yes, these are still available, along with the boat you saw. Thanks to anyone who can help. [email protected] or (909) 395-6151 ask for Toni or Joe
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Toni Bagley
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Posted on Friday, August 28, 2009 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Update on my post above: Both Fageol 44 VIP's have been sold along with my grandfather's mahogany boat. I appreciate everyone's interest and help with locating the engine manual. This has been a very helpful and informative posting forum. [email protected]
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Jay D. Sowers
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am looking for parts and a manual for a Fageol 44 vertical outboard engine with the dual carbs. Any help would be really appreciated. Thank you in advance for any help. Jay

Email me at ( [email protected] )
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Richard Conway
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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2016 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For Sale: Original Fageol outboard Motor. we used it on our family boat in the early - mid 60's and it's been stored in the barn ever since. Not new but seems to be intact

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