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rljb1804
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Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 05:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello,

I have a build-your-own-boat (a large steel hull with a BMC diesel engine (don't know the type) in it). I would like to know a lot more about this particular engine, but I don't have any information about it. Now, it seems that it is a rather simple engine (around 1970-1975), but I would like to know a little more. Does anyone know or have a digitized version of the manuals of BMC diesel engines around that age?

I hope to hear more, thanks in advance.

With kind regards,

Ronald.
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sam_a
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Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

G'day,
I have the workshop manual for the tempest series of BMC's, This covers the 3.8, 5.1, and 5.7 liter marine conversionsn of that period.
It is only in hard copy, but if it is of use to you I'll take a minute and scan it.
Cheers Sam
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amy_ann
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Hi Ronald,

Was also looking for some information from an old Tempest series BMC. Wonder if you ever got a copy of anything from Sam, could I get a copy from you of this also by email ?
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sam_a
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Hi there, I haven't heard anything from ronald, but would be more than happy to get you an electronic copy.
is the engine in use at the moment?
Cheers Sam
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amy_ann
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Hello Sam,
Yes, that would certainly be a great help. I was half hoping to do a part overhaul on my sons boat engine while the good weather is lasting over this side of the atlantic. The electronic copy would be great as a quick read now before striping might save a few problems later.
Broadband here so no problem downloading material.

Thanks & Regards - Patrick.
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sam_a
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G'day patrick,
I'll start scanning it asap,
The workshop manual has all the info you will need for an overhaul.
Cheers Sam
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Richard Hurst
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Does anyone have a BMC 2.2 manual they could share? Amongst other things I've discovered the engine in my narrowboat (keel cooled) doesn't have a thermostat and I would like to know what the correct temperature should be. Any help appreciated!
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Alistair Taylor
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Can anyone tell me how old and what my engine is please. It is a BMC 4 cyl marine diesel and has a rocker cover just like on my old mini. The engine serial number plate has the following (bit rusty so I may not have read all the details correctly)
A5ZB/A/D3623
Thanks
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wouterjn1983
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Heh hello,

I've bought a boat with a bmc motor in it. I am wondering witch type it is. It's a six cillinder engine. I guess a 4 to six liter. The manual where u tell about, can you send me a coppy? maybey i can restore the type en repair the engine.

Thanks Wouter Jansen
ps sorry for the poor englisch
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fraank
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Hi Guys
Iv'e just inherited a 50ft samson ferro with a leyland 6 sealord (D88, whatever that means,).
The engine hasn't been used in 13yrs.
a couple of quick questions
anyone know of a manual?
how long can diesel last in the tank?13ys?
the engine is not siezed but doesn't run
any advice to get the engine sea worthy
thanks
frank
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solarrog
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Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Purge the fuel system and add fresh fuel
Then New batteries
My guess is that it starts up if there isnt water in the fuel system
Please note an oil change is in order also
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fraank
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thanks Roger
Frank
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fraank
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HI All
does anyone know where I can get a workshop manual for a BMC Newage sealord 6 1968, 88 horse power.
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davidp
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To sam_a

Another request for a scanned version of your Tempest Sealord manual. Would you please e-mail me a copy
Many thanks davidp
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sam_a
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Hi everyone,
Sorry it took so long, but I think I have emailed a copy of the manual to everybody who requested one. If I missed you, just email me and I will get it straight off to you!
Cheers Sam
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wouterjn1983
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Hy all,

I've got the manual from sam but i am missing the parts b and c. This is the section of the six cilinder engines. Does enyone have the parts i am missing?

Wouter
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G-RELLY
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Can I have a copy? thanks in advance
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wouterjn1983
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I am missing de parts b and c. in these parts is written the six cillinder engine. Is there enyone who's have a coppy?

Thanks, Wouter
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jhatch
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Hi

Im trying to find out what a model number of BMC marine diesel engine.
Serial No is KS4 17 38J 10567D39452
Its about 25 to 30 years old and fitted to 45Ft Steel sailing boat.
If anyone can help let me know.
Thank you
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Mike East
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is there anyone out there that knows the sequence for timing the old bmc 3.8 with the fuel pump driven by a coupling between the timing house and the pump
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Sea Dart
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Does anyone have a source for gaskets for the 5.7 Sea Lord Diesel engine ?? UK preferably.
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kromidge
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Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi to everyone could anyone email me the BMC manual for the 5.7 lump seems a popular engine still .Dont know about the gasket but maybe LDV trucks as the inheritors of the leyland empire may have parts as this would have been a lorry engine as well they did have bits for the 1.8 BL aka BMC sherpa diesel a couple of years back
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wouterjn1983
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i have a smal part of the manual. i am missing the part for the 6 cillinder engine.
i am interest in the ful part of the manual, can anybody email me the manual?
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kromidge
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I have a page of general data for the BMC 3.8 and 5.7 or 230 and 345 it may be from a truck manual as it is only a single page and has no header. it came with my boat fitted with the Bmc 5.7 tappets are 0.013 in hot or cold. oil pressure hot idling 30- 35 lb/in sq normal running speed 55-60 lb/in sq . torque settings head bolts 100 lbft con rod 60 lb ft exh mani 30 lbft injector securing bolts 12 lb ft oilfilter centre 9 to 10 lbft rocker bracket bolts 5/16 15 lbft 3/8 dia 30 lbft for starter and other torque settings or metric values please email tho as I mentioned this may be truck data tho it does mention a heat exchanger hope is of use when I get near a scanner i will copy cheers chris
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kromidge
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i HAVE FOUND a DEALER SELLING BMC MANUALS. (COPIES) WEBSITE www.asap-supplies.com . looks a pretty useful chandlery too , books for 1.5 1.8 2.2 2.5 and 98 mm bore 4 and 6 cyl BMC engines at around 20 pounds uk which I found thru one of their books going secondhand on ebay seek and ye shall find!
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kromidge
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another supplier of bmc leyland and early thorneycroft spares is www.bmcmarine.co.uk plus on their main site peatland export parts a massive forum of these engine users be they in tractor lorry or boat. should keep us going for a while!
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wouterjn1983
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none of these suplyers have any spare parts for a six cillinder engine. Has anyone a idear?
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kromidge
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wouterjn asap supplies are listing head gaskets pistons lift pump etc for the 6 cylinder 98 mm bore engine as do peatland exports is your engine different
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kromidge
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the bmc marine link doesnt work try this instead these guys should be able to tell you anyhing there is to know bmc wisehttp://www.peatland.btinternet.co.uk/page2.html
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kromidge
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this ones better click on the index button and then perkins as due to a mistake the 345 aka 5.7 is not listed as a bmc but as leyland and then on the perkins section go on skype and ring them up world wide a cent a minute these guys should put you straight http://members.lycos.co.uk/bmcmarine/
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Peter Harcus
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I need to replace the injector pump on a BMC Commodore 60HP marine diesel engine. Does anyone know who might be able to supply a reconditioned or new? unit?
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csp1989
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HI I AM LOOKING FOR A BMC 2.2L MARINE ENGINE MANUAL IT HAS 4 CYLYINDERS AND I NEED TO KNOW THE
TOURQUE SETTING CYLINDER HEAD AND AS FAR AS I NO U CAN ONLY GET THE INFORMATION OF THE MANUAL IF ANYONE HAS A BMC 2.2L MARINE ENGINE MANUAL IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED IF U COULD EMAIL ME IT I WOULD WORK FOR IN RETURN TO PAY THE FAVOUR BACK MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS AT THE BOTTOM THANKS VERY MUCH EVERY ONE

csp1989@googlemail.com
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Roger Jefferies
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I have a water leak from the bottom of the water pump impeler casing on a diesel 3.4ltr Commodore . I can get the bolts out of the casing so that it moves about, but it will not withdraw from the pump body . I have no manuals on the engine so I am stuck. Can anyone help.
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kromidge
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hi roger with the studs removed the pump body should just pull out sounds as tho the seal and or bearings have gone west where are you located/ as i could put you on to a engineer in the uk who could renew it if you cant get a replacement part. tho peatland exports will no doubt have bits
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Joanne
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Can anyone help me please. Do you know where I can purchase a reasonably priced reconditioned BMC 1500 Engine. Many thanks in advance.
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Chr Landmark
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Hi
All 6-cyl engine parts are readily available, also BMC 5.1 and 5.7 l eg at www.jcl-tech.dk
Cheers Chr
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trigger
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Hi

Is there any chance that someone would kindly either email me a workshop manual for my marine 2.2 BMC diesel....or tell me where i can get a hard copy please....?

Really would be appreciated

Many thanks

Derek
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goodallr
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HI,

Does anyone know where I can get a manual for a BMC 1.8 4 cylinder diesel engine? I bought a narrowboat recently with one fitted and i'm having a few little problems.

Many Thanks

Becky
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roadster541
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Becky,
ASAP supplies do a manual for your engine for about £10.
If it is just a couple of settings or figures which you need I can let you know from my data sheets.
Rod
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Hi Guys this forum thread may like a link to my manuals web site.
I have placed a Number of Free BMC manuals for Download.

BMC 1.5 and 2.5 Diesel including the Tempest Marine
BMC Mastif engines
BMC Series FK
BMC series FJ
BMC series Sea Loard 5.1 ltr
BMC Series JU
BMC Series WJ

All are Free use the Link Below and Keep that old engine running


http://www.themanualman.com/The_manual_man_Final/BMC_Forum_Portal.html

Regards Steve
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ausssie
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Hi ya all well it's great to read all the in-put on the BMC Marine Diesel, I have receltly bought a 34' Boro Temptress steel yacht of 1976 vintage, it has what I think is a Navagator 1500 (1.5ltr) 1489cc 40bhp 30kw Marine Engine of 1976? I'm having trouble finding workshop manual & or info & would appriciate any help / info what-so-ever. it looks like I will need to do a complete rebuild so would appreciate any links to supplyers etc,..terific to read others are into rebuilding their BMC motors Top Stuff!!! anyhow if you can help with info that would be great, in advance thank you. Aussie
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kromidge
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hi aussie the engine your refering to would be a thorneycroft{marine branch of bmc} so try lookin for bits for that i have had several of these engines in 1.8 form and theyre a great motor chain driven camshaft so little to go wrong they were the standard fit of all canal boats in the uk and as far as i know still being made in india let me know how you get on the manualman in posting above this claims to have 1.5 manual
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Hi everyone.
I have registered a few seconds ago. I was trying to find information about an old BMC 3.4 liters diesel engine, Commodore Marine of unknwon age and happyly run onto you!!!!!!
I live and sail in Ushuaia, Tierra del Fuego, the southest most city in the whole world.
Is there any chance to get a Manual? I only have a few old photocopies- Digital or paper.

Does it have the technical description of the starter, a LUCAS 18 S ?
I will apreciate any info that helps me fix the starter.
Thank you all and have a good day.
Carlos
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hi all i am new to boating i have just brought a 27ft cabin cruiser which was working fine till the other day when i just would not fire up!. can anyone tell me why my 2.2 bmc marine engine wont start? i have changed the glow plugs and bled the diesel system and still no joy, it turns over and is pumping water from the exhaust system but its not firing not a hint of exhaust smoke coming out the back, and also does anyone have a manual on these engines?.......many thanks.......geoff.
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hello,
I have to sale a new rebuild Filterkit for BMC Sealord Engine
It's a Kit to change the Old Historic Oilfilter to a modern, high quality Spin on Filter

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For Info to this Item for to use for other types of Engines, please contact me:

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kromidge
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in answer to montrose re bmc 2.2 no smoke out your zorst means no diesel getting in engine at injectors tho you said youd bled them off. ive got a 5.7 and had 4 1.8\sbmcs good motors! on the 1.8 inj pump are several bleed points which if not bled the motor just wont go 2.2 may be the same let me know how you get on, my neighbour next berth has a bmc 2.2 will see if she has manual tho she doesnt live aboard so dont hold your breath
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kromidge
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i have some 3.8 and 5.7 spec sheets which show fuel consumption bhp rpm graphs which i could email to anyone interested
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Ian Duckworth
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Hi kromidge I would appreciate any info on the bmc 3.8 .I have a 37d that no one can help me with it may be the be the same engine ?
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kromidge
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Hi there Ian could you send me a digi pic of your engine plus where are you based as i travel a fair bit in the uk might be able to look in . if you email me at cwhorton69@yahoo.co.uk Ill send you what i can , cant send it thru this as upload limit wont allow hope to hear from you
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hi all im at my wits end trying to find a manual for a bmc 2.3 marinised engine would any one be able to help
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walli
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Hello,here are some links leading to BMC 1.5 liter manuals:

http://www.the-norfolk-broads.co.uk/downloads/bmc1500L-diesel-workshop-manual.pd f

http://www.calcuttboats.com/pdfs/Workshop%20Manual%201.5.pdf

http://www.calcuttboats.com/pdfs/Han...%20&%201.8.pdf

http://dc120.4shared.com/download/34167818/eb2257f2/BMC_15_-_25_Manual.pdf

would anyone of you know where I can get a pulley for the waterpump for a 1.5 liter BMC /Thornycroft engine. I checked by some of the major distributors, but no luck

Thanks Doug
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ChrLandmark
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Hi
I think you can get one through www.jcl-tech.dk

Mail with measures to get the correct one.

Cheers, Chr
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roadster541
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Doug,
If it is the pulley for the fresh water circulating pump then try one of the MG car specialists as I think that the water pump pulley is the same as that on the 1.8 petrol engine as fitted to the MGB. You should be able to find a used one for virtually nothing. If it is the pulley for the raw water pump you may need to buy a pulley blank fom someone such as HPC Gears and have he centre machined to suit the Jabsco.
Hope this helps.
Rod
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Hi there,how can i find out if my tempest sealord is a 5.1 or 5.7engine ?
also is it still possible to get spare parts?
thanks
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Thanks ChrLandmark, just looked at the site. Ist not good for a pully but good to know for other things.
Thanks roadster541, had a simular idea and went to a Mini workshop – got pretty near to it but not quite the right one. Will check MG. Otherwise I will have it made out of aluminium on a lade. Ist the pully for the fresh water pump. It is amasing, you get the pumps everywhere but not the pully.
Take care and thanks for now
Doug
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Hi,I look after a 1978 47ft narrowboat for the Scouts with a 1500 bmc diesel engine.In the last 12 months it has had new filters (before and after the lift pump)new lift pump,recon injectors,recon metering pump and various fuel hoses/pipes and connections.The problem is it runs for 10 hours continuous or more and then stalls on tickover in a lock and will not restart.By bleeding the injectors after 3/4 attempts 1/2 an hour later it fires up and runs for 15hours or so and does it again. If on short 5hr multiple runs its fine/Any Ideas.Keith
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its possible that the tank might be vacuming, check vents. a pinhole in a fuel line or leaking union will cause a air pocket to form over time and engine to conk out. check all joins maybe ptfe any dodgy ones and possible o ring in filter bruised and letting in air if you can put a length of clear pipe in the return to the tank temporarily to see if air in the line youll see bubbles while engine running good luck
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Air in the fuel line.
Keith Allen- one way of finding the leaks and a back up when the engine starts to slow down to stall- add a hand squeeze pump on the outlet to the tank. ( The type of squeeze pump that is common on outboard motor tanks). On my Sabb 2H, I Had a fuel leak start during water spout storm( tornado) off the New England coast and this pump saved the day.
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Hi,I have recently purchased a boat fitted with a 3.8 BMC diesel engine. Would anyone out there happen to have workshop manual i could purchase from them please? regards Rob.
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Bula I have a BMC diesel 4 cyl. guessing 1.5 litre. I'm wanting a sevice manuel for it. Tried the free down load sections, they just go round in circles. The engine is running sweet.
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Hi, my father in-law is having some problems with his starter motor, the engine is a 1.5 BMC inboard. He has taken it in to the place where he bought it and they have found traces of water in the shaft, bushes and the electrics but does'nt know where the water is coming from. Can any body help or have you had a similar problem that has been resolved? thankyou.
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Hi, just registered.

Can any tell me what starter motor is required for a bmc 2.2 diesel 4cylinder engine? Thnks
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Hi recently bought Broom 30 with a BMC 1800 Engine bit of a sod to start fires but reluctant to fully run starts after about 8 attempts smokes on start up but when warm runs like a dream sailed non stop for 6 hours @3/4 throttle never missed a beat breaths a little can any one shed light why she wont start 1st time ps new batteries new starter motor
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Hi Eric,
Well first I would check all the heaters to make sure they are working, second, do the injectors need servicing? I would think as you say it is running ok when started the injection pump is ok,
These engines do not start up cleanly, I always use full throttle and 15 to 20 sec heat (longer if it is very cold) and turn the key to start and keep it in the start position until it fires up and starts increasing revs before letting the starter stand down and reducing the throttle,
They do tend to breath slightly but this should not be excessive and if it is you will have to look at the crank case breather to check for a blockage, failing that it will be worn bores.
Hope this helps.
Keith. Marine Engineer
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crank speed is everything when starting. fitting extra beefy power leads to starter pos and neg can help, put neg lead directly onto starter mounting bolt. wire length and thickness is an issue with high currents as in start up. does pos wire go through isolator? if so ensure all joins are soldered as well as crimped. each join in cable is a potential power loss. oils drag when cold , you can have thinner oil for winter use . arctic boats and lorries have coolant water heaters for this reason. in the old days a fire would be lit under sump of lorries in v cold weather. hope this is of help .email me if i can be of further help am in uk
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Hi there

Does anybody have a manual electronically for a Commodore 3.8 litre diesel engine? Would be much appreciated.

Thank you

M. Paloma
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sam a i have a tempest bmc eng,could you please help me to identify it by downloading your manuels,iwould be very greatfull. From Handyal Thank you
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I have just purchased a BMC diesle engine, was told that it a 74hp, could this be, where can I get a manual for this, it also has a gearbox that operates with two slave cylinderfs, can anyone help me on a manual for this as well
I am in South Africa
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the gearbox is probably a prm aka newage , 1s your engine a four or six cylinder? im guessing a six if you give me your email adress i could send a data sheet with dimensions gph etc try http://www.prm-marine.com to see if same box spares are listed in messages in this thread higher up asap supplies ive used and are excellent good luck
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hey there guys
im having a little trouble as my father in law has an old thorneycroft/bmc 4 cylinder engine but doesnt know whether its a 1500 cc or 1800 cc engine and needs to know the clearances for the tappets all info is welcomed
thanks
Rob
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Has anyone got a spare fuel pump for a 2.2 litre BMC? The lucas marine in line injection type pump.
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Bmc 1.8. White Smoke/steam when full speed, then no water from the exhaust. Is this most likely the impeller ? If not, HELP. Thanks. Any friendly mechanics in Torquay area?
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Hi Tim,
I would suggest a blocked sea cock and or filter, the impeller in the pump broken or worn, or a worn pump, I would also suggest you check any oil coolers to see they are not blocked or restricted with deposits down the tubes, if all this is ok then you might be looking at taking the head off and cleaning out the waterways, BMC engine heads do tend to block there waterways with deposits over time, this is assuming your thermostat (if you are using one) is working correctly.
Regards Keith Marine Engineer.
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I have a 1500cc BMC diesel in my 20' river launch.

The boat only went back in the water two weeks ago but now the under engine catch tray has filled with most of the engine coolant.

However I cannot see an obvious leak from the hoses or anywhere else for that matter.

Any ideas please?
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I am trying to obtain a Manual for my original Boat engine fitted in 1981.
It is BMC(Leyland)Thorneycroft Marine Diesel.
2.5 litre 4 cylinder Approx 55hp.
Can anyone help please?
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BMC 1500 Diesel fuel timing. Circa 1970's
Hi, Am unable to locate a timing gauge to set as per manual.
Can anyone assist with the settings for the spill timing for the above engine.
Or just confirmation of the start of injection.
The 22Deg BTDC that is the setting for the use of the gauge seems much to early for an old style engine. But I'm willing to be proved wrong.
The engine had been disassembled before I started it so no previous position or marks are available.
Any assistance would be most appreciated.
Regards John
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I have no experience with BMC diesels but the Perkins P series with indirect injection Aeroflow combustion chambers had a spill timing of 29BTDC. What helped when working out pump nad valve timing was the starter ring had 123 teeth ie as near as dammit 3 degrees to a tooth and they were nice big teeth usually visible through a hole in the flywheel housing which also gave TDC . If you need to know more, I am happy to help. Does the engine have jerk or rotary type fuel pump/
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Can anyone please tell me what order the washers & spring goes when fitting a new oil filter in a 1.5 BMC (not screw type filter) The machanic was taken ill & this is all that needs fitting before trying engine. Searched the net for a diagram to no avail. The machanic unbolted the oil filter casing from the bottom. removed the filter & left the casing, a spring, a few small metal washers, a cloth washer a big rubber ring & large round plate if thes any help? Would be great if I could obtain a diagram. Been waiting 3 mths to try the engine after a rebuild only for the machanic to have a serious accident the day before thew new filter arrived.
thx in advance
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Hi Don, Dont know if the attachment works so here's the order in the parts book.

Start with Long bolt with steel cup washer either welded on to hex head of bolt or slid down, with concave surface facing up, to match base of main filter bowl.

Next lubricate the rubber "O" ring or flat rubber washer (there should be new 1 with the filter, this is a most common area for leaks) and slide on to bolt until it nestles inside the cup.

Slide steel filter container onto bolt

Slide spring onto bolt

Slide plain steel washer onto bolt
Lubricate felt washer (or rubber washer)(again new if supplied but not imperative unless old one is breaking up) and slide down bolt

Slide pressure plate washer(Nipple facing upwards) to be able to marry with inside bottom of filter element.

Slide (Jelly baby shaped) spring clip down bolt onto pressure plate, (you may have to wind it down the threads of the bolt if it is tight, do not prise apart).

Ensure all are pushed down inside of the container but no need to pressurise.

Slide in filter element.

See if a new square section rubber ring (3-4mm cross section. About same diameter as top of steel container)has been supplied with filter.
If so ensure old ring has been remove from underside of filter housing head.
Lubricate new ring with grease and fit into recess.
When fitting assembled filter, do not be tempted to spin the container on, as this can catch up on the large rubber ring and twist it, causing a leak.
Hope this helps Regards John
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Hi Steaming, Many thanks for that.
I have the expertise but just want to confirm the technical data.
Thanks again. regards John
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Many thx for the instructions John, hopefully a long wait is over very soon. Sent you email John.
Regards,
Don...
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Hello everyone

I have a problem with smoking engines ! They are Thorneycroft 154's (2.52). They both smoke quite a lot on first start up of the day until warm. All the injectors have been refurbished and new sets of glow plugs fitted. As soon as there is a load put on them i.e put in gear the excess smoke stops even when engines are cold. I've been putting up with this for a while and is getting a bit embarrasing. Last week a marine engineer told me he could stop the engines from smoking for about £200 but didn't say what he would do. Having just spent £1000 on having one of the gearboxes overhauled with him, it would be quite handy and cheaper to know if I could cure them myself. Any suggestions or advice welcome.
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Hi there,
Before making any suggestions;
What colour is the smoke. As this indicates the basic problem on any diesel engine.
Light Blue?
Brownish Black?
White?
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i have noticed these engines smoking on idle and then clearing whilst under load and can only presume its down to cylinder wear. when an engine is under load it throws the piston onto one side of the cylinder which causes them to wear unevenly, on idle the piston runs more centrally but piston rings no longer contacting as evenly. . new rings or rebore being the only answer, to that problem another simpler cause of smoking is the little rubber seals on the inlet valves or stem seals as theyre known as these perish due to age oil in the rockerbox can be sucked past the valve guide into the engine and cause smoking ,a quick fix is to put wynns oil seal conditioner in the oil which causes the seals to swell and stop leaking http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogI d_10151_productId_154689_langId_-1_categoryId_165750 always useful on any old motor. most people just run in gear when battery charging make sure mooring ropes are well secured and dont run on the mooring for long before you set off good luck
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Thanks for the advice everybody.

Will give the Wynns a try first, both engines still have a good 5 bar of oil pressure on tick over which i think is quite good for 30 year engines, neither engine uses hardly any oil at all.

The colour of the smoke is greyish but smells of unburnt diesel, initial thought that pump timing might be slightly out, but they start first time and dont smoke at all when under load, unless giving it a bit of welly.

Thanks again for the advice, all suggestions welcome.
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ANYONE GOT A LATHE?... BMC COMMODORE 3.4

I need to machine up a part that is so obsolete that its a nightmare..

I need to make a new reverse gear operating cam for the reverse gearbox. The old one woudl only come off with a grinder...

Anyone in the Thames Valley with a lathe that would be interested in knocking out one of these from the drawing Ive just done, for a modest consideration?

If anyone can do this pelase e-mail me nick.brown@greenamps.co.uk

Many thanks !
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BMC COMMODORE 3.4

... and by teh way Ive now taken this unit down to nothing and its coming back up again bright and shiny. Was originally installed in 1950 and it looks like some of it hasnt been touched since new. So some experience developing here. If anyone needs help with one of these then maybe I can help.

In particular Ive spent several weeks tracking down suppliers for parts.

At some point I will put some posts up with what I have found out.
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Searching for an exhaust mixer elbow for a diesel BMC 1.8 engine. Any suggestions welcome. Thank you.
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Have manufactured them from 2" iron, threaded water fittings purchased from The Pipe Line centre.
Alternatively I believe A.S.A.P. SUPPLIES sell them
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Hello everyone.
I have a BMC marine diesel engine in my boat and
would like to know what model,cc,hp and year of manufacture from the following engine number...
38VD1339Z25680.
Thanks for any info.
Allan
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bmc 2.2 diesel

does anyone know the part number for the 12v replacement heater plugs for this engine please?
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BMC engine no 38VD1339Z25680.

Are you sure it doesn't start 18VD...? This would be a post 1970 1.8 engine. V indicates Vertical (ie NOT a V8, V6, etc). Crazy logic but there you go.
I'm guessing the D means it's a diesel but someone else will have to confirm that!
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According to an original Leyland Parts Book for a BMC 1500 diesel. The last 5 or 6 numbers are the serial number of the engine. The preceding letters and numbers are the build detail specification code.
Is the fuel injection pump a round rotary type fitted on the back left (Looking from the front)just above the starter motor. This would indicate that it is a 1500.
If not: What type of vessel is it fitted in?
Size, weight, type. How many cylinders?
Were iss the inj pump fitted and how is it driven?
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To Gemini; A few more thoughts that might head you in the right direction.
The exhaust manifold heat exchanger may have a manufacturers plate which gives a model and serial number. These were general specific to one size of engine. Bowman still exist and have some records. If it is a Bowman manifold it may also have a number cast onto it's side indicating the engine it is for, mine has "1500/1800" as these used the same block and head for both.
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I have a BMC Commodore 3.8 diesel engine and I am looking for the following parts:

2 x slave cylinders
Throttle cable

Please can anyone help with where I can source these parts?
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IMt BMC Commodore engine does not idle correctly. It starts OK but the revs go up to over 1500 immediately the throttle is touched and stays high. It will not return to its normal idle speed of 600 RPM.

Does anyone have any ideas what might cause this?
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To; Rob Helm
There are a set of champion AG 4 glow plugs advertised on e bay today
the listing number is; 18080235419
Look like they are the 2 volt in series type
Hope it helps
Regards
John
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To; Yachtview.
Sounds like the Idle Damper adjustment is badly set.
Not sure which pump is fitted to your particular engine but you should be able to find a manual on the net which will explain
Can you confirm the cc size of the engine and number of cylinders as nearly all of the BMC diesels tend to get called a Commodore.
If its one of the smaller engine I may have the relevant info.
Regards John
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Hi folks,
My boat (circa 1975 vintage, Broom) has a BMC Tempest engine.I have read all the posts on this forum regarding this type of engine. I do not have a manual and would be grateful if someone could send me one by e-mail. I want to conduct a basic service (change oil, filter and fuel filter, but I cannot find the hand operated fuel "lift pump". I also want to get a spare impellor for the water pump, but I dont know the type or part number. As you can see, I am a willing amateur with little knowledge, so any and all help will be appreciated.
John
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Hi John,
Need a bit of clarification as Tempest were the marinisers of the BMC block not the model or size.
Do you know the cc?
What size is the boat?
What speed is it supposed to do?
Let me know and we'll see what we can do. John
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Thank you for the reply John. I will get that info asap, but it may be a few days because I will not be down to the marina until next Monday (hopefully)
Kindest regards,
john
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we are looking for the torque settings for our engine we have a BMC3.8 /Leyland 498 and are trying to rebuild it but we need those settings to do a proper job can any one help us please David
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nononsencejohn
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If you go to
http://www.thenuffieldandleylandtractorclub.co.uk/wp/wp-content/themes/nuffield/ images/Middleweight%20torque%20settings.PDF
on Google they have this info

Leyland Middleweight Tractor - Main Torque Settings
Engine kgf m lbf ft

Leyland 34TD, 38TD & 4/98
Cylinder head nuts (34TD & 38TD) 13.8 100
Cylinder head nuts (4/98) 15.2 110
Cylinder head bolts (4/98) 17.25 125
Big end bolts (34TD & 38TD) 8.3 60
Big end bolts (4/98) 9.66 to 10.35 70 to 75
Main bearing nuts (34TD & 38TD) 13.8 100
Main bearing nuts (4/98) 16.5 120
Main bearing bolts (4/98) 26.22 190
Rocker bracket bolts - 3/8 inch 4 30
Rocker bracket bolts - 5/16 inch 2 15
Flywheel bolts 13.8 100
Crankshaft pulley nut 34.56 250
Engine to main frame 13.25 96
Gearbox
Main shaft lock nut 25 180
Main shaft bearing rings 16.5 120
Selector cover 3.73 27
Transfer housing 3.73 27
Transfer housing cover 2.1 15
Drop box output cover - 4WD 4.55 33
Drop box securing bolts - 4WD 5.66 41
PTO - Single speed
Bearing housing to case 13.25 96
Output shaft nut 21 150PTO - Two speed kgf m lbf ft
Front cover 8.3 to 11.8 60 to 85
Front cover end plate 2.3 20
Back plate upper 4 9.66 70
Back plate lower 3 3.73 27
Output shaft nut 21 150

Hope it helps John
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ip24
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My BMC 1.8 has white steam/smoke emitting from the exhaust when running anywhere more than half throttle. I am engineering challenged so simple answers will work best, even if it's call a mechanic.
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ip24, Hi Tim
Ref; Steam/Smoke.
Is it steam or smoke?
Is it white and billowing or does it have a bluish tint to it? (This one indicates engine oil)
Does it leave an oil slick on the water?
Possibilities!
If it is steam, then you are getting water into one or more of the cylinders, probably sucked in past the cylinder head gasket.
If it is pure white smoke then it is totally unburned atomized fuel. This is caused by either severe loss of compression in one or more of the cylinder, unlikely. Or possibly a weak spring in 1 or more of the fuel injectors so that the fuel isn't getting up to enough pressure to ignite when injected into the cylinder.
Either way there is no quick fix I would advise a mechanic.
Unfortunatly your to far away to offer assistance.
Hope it helps John
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Thanks John. I was afraid of that, so a mechanic it is. :-(
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ip24, Hi Tim
There is a chap called Brian Hayes at Holsworthy
N W Devon GBH VEHICLE SPARE. HE DEALS IN OLD ENGINE PARTS, I'V DEALT WITH HIM IN THE PAST AND HE'S A KNOWLEDGABLE AND HELPFULL GUY. HE MAY KNOW SOMEONE WHO SPECIALISES IN THESE BMC ENGINES IN YOUR AREA. COULD BE WORTH A CALL
GBH
Brooks House
Pyworthy
Holsworthy
Devon
EX22 6SL
Telephone: 01409 255 464
REGARDS JOHN
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Could anyone advise if i can increase the HP of a 2.5 BMC beyond 56hp. max revs is currently 3200. could more HP be gained by tweaking the fuel pump.?
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eny one know running temprature 3.8 bmc
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nick_theboatman
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@ brian baldwin 70C (depending on thermostat working properly)
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Hello,
Where is the engine number on a 3.8l BMC engine.
I was told it was stamped on the block under No4
injector but nothing is stamped in that position.
there is a casting number on a plate riveted in that location but nothing else.
Regards
Phil.
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@ottoburn434
look at pot 4, starboard side.
Stamped on top of the block on a little flat area beside the head.
If it is blank then the head has been skimmed and you're stuffed :-)
You will have to do a bit of detective work - you might get help here...
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Hello, that flat area is blank.
Where might I get help in identifying the engine?
Regards
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Anyone needing head gaskets for the BMC 6 cylinder diesel manufactured between 66-70. 5.7 or 6 litre I have some available. Listing on ebay today
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Hello all, it is nearly 12 months since my last post and I have yet another question. The engine on my boat is a BMC Commodore 2.2(?) litre, marinised by Tempest (thanks John for your input). My question is: when I was in the process of changing the engine oil, I moved a small brass 2-way lever located at the back of the engine and this allowed me to pump out the oil by means of the in-situ pump. When I replaced the engine oil I noticed that the gear box oil had also been extracted, so I replenished both the engine and gear box with the same oil, through the engine oil-filler port. Since then (100 engine hours ago) the engine and gear box have both run well. Should I have put a different oil in the gear box and if so, through what filler port?
Many thanks
John
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brian phillips
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hi i am looking for a workshop manual for my bmc 2.2 commander diesel engine or copy can anyone please help ?
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I am seeking a workshop manual for a 2.5 BMC diesel engine.Would appreciate assistance sourcing same please.
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i have a 2.2 bmc diesel engine with a crankshaft needing to be replaced.can anyone assist me to locate such a crankshaft please
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i have an oil leak at the point where the shaft exits the engine block on a 2.5 bmc diesel engine. what type of oil seal is it and how do i access the
the point of removal and replacement.
Any knowledge please.Bill.07947452113.
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nononsencejohn
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In your 3 postings you mention 2 different size engines. Which one is it?
Also;- What shaft and which end of the engine?
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The oil leak is from the 2.5 bmc engine where the shaft comes out the back of the engine block.the oil is seaping down into the flywheel housing.
I also seek a workshop manual for this engine.
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my other engine is a 2.2 bmc and it needs a new crankshaft.
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Thanks for replying John.Appreciate it.
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Hi have a 2.5 engine fitted in a fg truck.The timing chain slipped and engined stopped.When checked it out i had to replace push rods as the were bent.since i put back together its smokie.Ive adjusted pump,which has reduced the smoke,but takes some starrtin.An ideas what is happening.Thanks jim. }}
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To Jim Corrigan
Hi Jim
Bent push rods mean the valves have collided with the piston crowns.
This may have damaged the pistons or rings and/or possibly bent one or more of the valve stems.
A compression test would confirm if you have problems in one or more cylinder.

Or with engine running at tick over, crack each injector pipe in turn and see if this alters the engine speed. Re tighten the nut before proceeding to next injector.

Do you have difficulty starting from cold?

What colour is the smoke?
White billowing indicates atomised but un burned diesel
Black brown indicates diesel burning slowly not under pressure.
Blue tinted white smoke indicates engine oil burning. Either rings or pistons damaged or valve guides or seals damaged.

What area are you in?
Let me know and I'll advise further
Regards John
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I have the following items for sale off a BMC 2.2 diesel engine at reasonable prices so that i can create space in my workshop;
BMC upper and lower block complete except for crankshaft
Borg Warner gearbox;flywheel;thrust plate;FW housing
Starter motor
Lifting pump
oil filter housing
4 x Injectors
4 x glow plugs
Bosch fuel pump
Alternators
Diesel filter CAV housing
PLEASE RING IF ANYTHING INTERESTS YOU.
07947452113.BILL.
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UPDATE:
since posting the above(6) I have now sold the injectors and glow plugs.
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whilst repairing a friends 50 ft narrow boat with bmc 1.5 diesel engine, which was making heavy white smoke ,I discovered the cause was a recent overhaul ,where the exhaust valve stem oil seals had been replaced by ones of unknown origin from a head gasket set and on examination they/d melted/stuck to the valve stem detached from the guide and were effectively pumping oil down past the guide into the nice hot exhaust making loads of smoke. replacing them with original bmc ones off ebay and now its fine so beware of non original parts, the head gasket incedentally was ok
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what should the oil pressure normal read on a 2.5 bmc diesel engine
how do i know i have the right sender unit fitted
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Hi there
has anyone access to the manual or an exploded view of the gearbox/engine connection for a BMC Commander engine & a Newage mechanical gearbox as there is an oil leak between the engine & gearbox, probably gearbox oil, but not sure how the units split apart, i.e do you remove the bell housing with the gearbox attached or just the gearbox from the bell housing. I expect it will only be one of these ways but need to do it the right way first time to avoid difficulty.
Has anyone done this job? does anyone know where I can access a breakdown of the unit.

The gearbox is fitted with a 2;1 reduction box, the gear lever connection is a splined cross shaft on the aft lower base of the casting, the oil dipstick in central on the top of the casting with a brass filler nut just aft if that helps describe the unit

John Lilley
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in my experience of prm gboxs on bmc engines its usually the crankshaft oil seal thats gone which could be age most of these engines are older than there owners but can be cured by an oil additive which makes the oil seals revive and swell up slightly have used one with sucess made by wynns o/s http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WYNNS-PROFESSIONAL-77441-ENGINE-OIL-STOP-LEAK-325ml-Ca n-/110977549532?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%25 2BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D190586100844%26ps%3D54 failing that to remove on every gearbox Ive seen you have to remove the bellhousing as the bolts holding the gearbox to it are on the inside of the b/h not a bad idea as you can check if the drive plate is ok though as they say if it aint broke dont fix it good luck
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l kelly
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Hi i work on BMC engines and can travel to most areas.

Contact L Kelly
07869 771 505
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What is the weight of a BMC 1500 diesel excluding gearbox?
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hi i'm after a bmc 1800 b series manual so i can get to know my engine in my narrow boat. could anyone help or point me in a direction to get a copy please and thank you
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See http://motoren.ath.cx/

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