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rljb1804
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Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 05:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello,

I have a build-your-own-boat (a large steel hull with a BMC diesel engine (don't know the type) in it). I would like to know a lot more about this particular engine, but I don't have any information about it. Now, it seems that it is a rather simple engine (around 1970-1975), but I would like to know a little more. Does anyone know or have a digitized version of the manuals of BMC diesel engines around that age?

I hope to hear more, thanks in advance.

With kind regards,

Ronald.
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sam_a
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Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

G'day,
I have the workshop manual for the tempest series of BMC's, This covers the 3.8, 5.1, and 5.7 liter marine conversionsn of that period.
It is only in hard copy, but if it is of use to you I'll take a minute and scan it.
Cheers Sam
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amy_ann
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Posted on Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 05:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Ronald,

Was also looking for some information from an old Tempest series BMC. Wonder if you ever got a copy of anything from Sam, could I get a copy from you of this also by email ?
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sam_a
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Hi there, I haven't heard anything from ronald, but would be more than happy to get you an electronic copy.
is the engine in use at the moment?
Cheers Sam
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amy_ann
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Hello Sam,
Yes, that would certainly be a great help. I was half hoping to do a part overhaul on my sons boat engine while the good weather is lasting over this side of the atlantic. The electronic copy would be great as a quick read now before striping might save a few problems later.
Broadband here so no problem downloading material.

Thanks & Regards - Patrick.
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sam_a
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G'day patrick,
I'll start scanning it asap,
The workshop manual has all the info you will need for an overhaul.
Cheers Sam
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Richard Hurst
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Does anyone have a BMC 2.2 manual they could share? Amongst other things I've discovered the engine in my narrowboat (keel cooled) doesn't have a thermostat and I would like to know what the correct temperature should be. Any help appreciated!
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Alistair Taylor
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Can anyone tell me how old and what my engine is please. It is a BMC 4 cyl marine diesel and has a rocker cover just like on my old mini. The engine serial number plate has the following (bit rusty so I may not have read all the details correctly)
A5ZB/A/D3623
Thanks
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wouterjn1983
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Heh hello,

I've bought a boat with a bmc motor in it. I am wondering witch type it is. It's a six cillinder engine. I guess a 4 to six liter. The manual where u tell about, can you send me a coppy? maybey i can restore the type en repair the engine.

Thanks Wouter Jansen
ps sorry for the poor englisch
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fraank
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Hi Guys
Iv'e just inherited a 50ft samson ferro with a leyland 6 sealord (D88, whatever that means,).
The engine hasn't been used in 13yrs.
a couple of quick questions
anyone know of a manual?
how long can diesel last in the tank?13ys?
the engine is not siezed but doesn't run
any advice to get the engine sea worthy
thanks
frank
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solarrog
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Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Purge the fuel system and add fresh fuel
Then New batteries
My guess is that it starts up if there isnt water in the fuel system
Please note an oil change is in order also
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fraank
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thanks Roger
Frank
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fraank
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HI All
does anyone know where I can get a workshop manual for a BMC Newage sealord 6 1968, 88 horse power.
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davidp
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Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To sam_a

Another request for a scanned version of your Tempest Sealord manual. Would you please e-mail me a copy
Many thanks davidp
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sam_a
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Hi everyone,
Sorry it took so long, but I think I have emailed a copy of the manual to everybody who requested one. If I missed you, just email me and I will get it straight off to you!
Cheers Sam
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wouterjn1983
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Hy all,

I've got the manual from sam but i am missing the parts b and c. This is the section of the six cilinder engines. Does enyone have the parts i am missing?

Wouter
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G-RELLY
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Can I have a copy? thanks in advance
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wouterjn1983
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I am missing de parts b and c. in these parts is written the six cillinder engine. Is there enyone who's have a coppy?

Thanks, Wouter
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jhatch
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Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 04:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi

Im trying to find out what a model number of BMC marine diesel engine.
Serial No is KS4 17 38J 10567D39452
Its about 25 to 30 years old and fitted to 45Ft Steel sailing boat.
If anyone can help let me know.
Thank you
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Mike East
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is there anyone out there that knows the sequence for timing the old bmc 3.8 with the fuel pump driven by a coupling between the timing house and the pump
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Sea Dart
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Does anyone have a source for gaskets for the 5.7 Sea Lord Diesel engine ?? UK preferably.
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kromidge
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Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi to everyone could anyone email me the BMC manual for the 5.7 lump seems a popular engine still .Dont know about the gasket but maybe LDV trucks as the inheritors of the leyland empire may have parts as this would have been a lorry engine as well they did have bits for the 1.8 BL aka BMC sherpa diesel a couple of years back
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wouterjn1983
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i have a smal part of the manual. i am missing the part for the 6 cillinder engine.
i am interest in the ful part of the manual, can anybody email me the manual?
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kromidge
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I have a page of general data for the BMC 3.8 and 5.7 or 230 and 345 it may be from a truck manual as it is only a single page and has no header. it came with my boat fitted with the Bmc 5.7 tappets are 0.013 in hot or cold. oil pressure hot idling 30- 35 lb/in sq normal running speed 55-60 lb/in sq . torque settings head bolts 100 lbft con rod 60 lb ft exh mani 30 lbft injector securing bolts 12 lb ft oilfilter centre 9 to 10 lbft rocker bracket bolts 5/16 15 lbft 3/8 dia 30 lbft for starter and other torque settings or metric values please email tho as I mentioned this may be truck data tho it does mention a heat exchanger hope is of use when I get near a scanner i will copy cheers chris
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kromidge
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i HAVE FOUND a DEALER SELLING BMC MANUALS. (COPIES) WEBSITE www.asap-supplies.com . looks a pretty useful chandlery too , books for 1.5 1.8 2.2 2.5 and 98 mm bore 4 and 6 cyl BMC engines at around 20 pounds uk which I found thru one of their books going secondhand on ebay seek and ye shall find!
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kromidge
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another supplier of bmc leyland and early thorneycroft spares is www.bmcmarine.co.uk plus on their main site peatland export parts a massive forum of these engine users be they in tractor lorry or boat. should keep us going for a while!
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wouterjn1983
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none of these suplyers have any spare parts for a six cillinder engine. Has anyone a idear?
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kromidge
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wouterjn asap supplies are listing head gaskets pistons lift pump etc for the 6 cylinder 98 mm bore engine as do peatland exports is your engine different
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kromidge
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the bmc marine link doesnt work try this instead these guys should be able to tell you anyhing there is to know bmc wisehttp://www.peatland.btinternet.co.uk/page2.html
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kromidge
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this ones better click on the index button and then perkins as due to a mistake the 345 aka 5.7 is not listed as a bmc but as leyland and then on the perkins section go on skype and ring them up world wide a cent a minute these guys should put you straight http://members.lycos.co.uk/bmcmarine/
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Peter Harcus
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I need to replace the injector pump on a BMC Commodore 60HP marine diesel engine. Does anyone know who might be able to supply a reconditioned or new? unit?
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csp1989
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HI I AM LOOKING FOR A BMC 2.2L MARINE ENGINE MANUAL IT HAS 4 CYLYINDERS AND I NEED TO KNOW THE
TOURQUE SETTING CYLINDER HEAD AND AS FAR AS I NO U CAN ONLY GET THE INFORMATION OF THE MANUAL IF ANYONE HAS A BMC 2.2L MARINE ENGINE MANUAL IT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED IF U COULD EMAIL ME IT I WOULD WORK FOR IN RETURN TO PAY THE FAVOUR BACK MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS AT THE BOTTOM THANKS VERY MUCH EVERY ONE

csp1989@googlemail.com
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Roger Jefferies
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I have a water leak from the bottom of the water pump impeler casing on a diesel 3.4ltr Commodore . I can get the bolts out of the casing so that it moves about, but it will not withdraw from the pump body . I have no manuals on the engine so I am stuck. Can anyone help.
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kromidge
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hi roger with the studs removed the pump body should just pull out sounds as tho the seal and or bearings have gone west where are you located/ as i could put you on to a engineer in the uk who could renew it if you cant get a replacement part. tho peatland exports will no doubt have bits
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Joanne
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Can anyone help me please. Do you know where I can purchase a reasonably priced reconditioned BMC 1500 Engine. Many thanks in advance.
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Chr Landmark
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Hi
All 6-cyl engine parts are readily available, also BMC 5.1 and 5.7 l eg at www.jcl-tech.dk
Cheers Chr
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trigger
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Hi

Is there any chance that someone would kindly either email me a workshop manual for my marine 2.2 BMC diesel....or tell me where i can get a hard copy please....?

Really would be appreciated

Many thanks

Derek
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goodallr
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HI,

Does anyone know where I can get a manual for a BMC 1.8 4 cylinder diesel engine? I bought a narrowboat recently with one fitted and i'm having a few little problems.

Many Thanks

Becky
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roadster541
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Becky,
ASAP supplies do a manual for your engine for about £10.
If it is just a couple of settings or figures which you need I can let you know from my data sheets.
Rod
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Steve Richardson
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Hi Guys this forum thread may like a link to my manuals web site.
I have placed a Number of Free BMC manuals for Download.

BMC 1.5 and 2.5 Diesel including the Tempest Marine
BMC Mastif engines
BMC Series FK
BMC series FJ
BMC series Sea Loard 5.1 ltr
BMC Series JU
BMC Series WJ

All are Free use the Link Below and Keep that old engine running


http://www.themanualman.com/The_manual_man_Final/BMC_Forum_Portal.html

Regards Steve
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ausssie
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Hi ya all well it's great to read all the in-put on the BMC Marine Diesel, I have receltly bought a 34' Boro Temptress steel yacht of 1976 vintage, it has what I think is a Navagator 1500 (1.5ltr) 1489cc 40bhp 30kw Marine Engine of 1976? I'm having trouble finding workshop manual & or info & would appriciate any help / info what-so-ever. it looks like I will need to do a complete rebuild so would appreciate any links to supplyers etc,..terific to read others are into rebuilding their BMC motors Top Stuff!!! anyhow if you can help with info that would be great, in advance thank you. Aussie
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kromidge
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hi aussie the engine your refering to would be a thorneycroft{marine branch of bmc} so try lookin for bits for that i have had several of these engines in 1.8 form and theyre a great motor chain driven camshaft so little to go wrong they were the standard fit of all canal boats in the uk and as far as i know still being made in india let me know how you get on the manualman in posting above this claims to have 1.5 manual
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Hi everyone.
I have registered a few seconds ago. I was trying to find information about an old BMC 3.4 liters diesel engine, Commodore Marine of unknwon age and happyly run onto you!!!!!!
I live and sail in Ushuaia, Tierra del Fuego, the southest most city in the whole world.
Is there any chance to get a Manual? I only have a few old photocopies- Digital or paper.

Does it have the technical description of the starter, a LUCAS 18 S ?
I will apreciate any info that helps me fix the starter.
Thank you all and have a good day.
Carlos
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montrose
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hi all i am new to boating i have just brought a 27ft cabin cruiser which was working fine till the other day when i just would not fire up!. can anyone tell me why my 2.2 bmc marine engine wont start? i have changed the glow plugs and bled the diesel system and still no joy, it turns over and is pumping water from the exhaust system but its not firing not a hint of exhaust smoke coming out the back, and also does anyone have a manual on these engines?.......many thanks.......geoff.
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hello,
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kromidge
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in answer to montrose re bmc 2.2 no smoke out your zorst means no diesel getting in engine at injectors tho you said youd bled them off. ive got a 5.7 and had 4 1.8\sbmcs good motors! on the 1.8 inj pump are several bleed points which if not bled the motor just wont go 2.2 may be the same let me know how you get on, my neighbour next berth has a bmc 2.2 will see if she has manual tho she doesnt live aboard so dont hold your breath
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kromidge
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i have some 3.8 and 5.7 spec sheets which show fuel consumption bhp rpm graphs which i could email to anyone interested

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