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Scrapping Palmer P60 (M60??)

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Jim Bull
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Username: douglas31

Post Number: 3
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2012 - 02:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am about to scrap a 22HP Palmer P60(M60?)which was installed in a Douglas31 which was built in 1970. Unfortunately the boat was submerged dockside for about 18 hours this past May (in freshwater) but was "pickled" soon after it was lifted from the water. The cooling water intake hose had burst. Are there any parts from this engine that anyone might want? Shipping for any item would have to be paid. (Alternator is not available)

Note that I had rebuilt the cooling water pump before last sailing season which included getting a new pump shaft made at a machine shop.

We are presently replacing this motor with a Beta 16HP diesel.
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Eddie Ross
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Username: eddie

Post Number: 302
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, there are several parts that are peculiar to the Palmer P-60 and only obtainable from a scrapped engine. Most valuable is the exhaust manifold. Other parts unique to that engine are the water pump, distributor, crankshaft, flywheel and the water hose fitting atop the cylinder head. These parts are the ones that differ from the International Harvester tractor engine and can only be repaired, rebuilt or obtained from another scrapped P-60.
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Richard A. Day Jr.
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Username: richardday

Post Number: 1021
Registered: 11-2003


Posted on Friday, August 24, 2012 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eddie, For years I understood the crankshaft for the P-60 was not the standard IHC CUB-LO-BOY C-60 engine. I finally found out it is the same crankshaft only the adapter bushing for the OXKB is pressed on the end of the standard crankshaft. One part I have had calls for is the wider marine flywheel from the IHC tractor flywheel which was used in the earliest years of production. The wider marine flywheel ring gear can get messed up and it is easier to just replace the whole flywheel than shrink on a replacement ring gear. Another item is the flywheel mounted pulley adapter for driving the sea water pump for the heat exchanger. A good heat exchanger is also a looked for item. The Thermostat housing is another item which occasionally is looked for. Complete gasket sets for the engine and its adapters to the reverse gear housing etc. are available from Gaskets To Go. I had one call for a cast iron crankcase but the caller never called back so guess he found a local one.
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Eddie Ross
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Username: eddie

Post Number: 303
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Friday, August 24, 2012 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard, I forgot about the thermostat housing. I understand that you can get them from Moyer Marine. It would be worth hanging on to if you are scrapping out an engine. Ten years ago the housing was going for $110.
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tim walker
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Username: i_fix_it

Post Number: 8
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jim, I would like to buy your exhaust manifold. You can call me any time. My email is zephyrsedan@yahoo.com Thanks , Tim
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Herb Lehr
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Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2012 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I could go for the carburator. Still available??
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tim walker
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Username: i_fix_it

Post Number: 9
Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Monday, October 08, 2012 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All, I was going to buy Jims manifold but finaly went for the new diesel. So Jims manifold is still up for grabs and I have complete 1974 P60 that runs perfect with new alt. carb,reg,waterpump and thermostat. buy it all or parts. You can still here and see it run in the boat. The manifold rotted out in such a way that it just bypassed the thermostat. It still runs good it just never warms upand way to much water comes out the exaust.
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David Band
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Username: attyband

Post Number: 14
Registered: 07-2011
Posted on Tuesday, October 09, 2012 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Darn. Did Tim get the exhaust manifold? My engine runs good, has a brand new head, but I still am picking up water into the oil. My yacht mechanic can't seem to explain it to me, but I think he's saying he's pretty sure he found a manufacturer who can get us whatever part is the problem. Would an exaust manifold be the likely culprit?
If this one is gone, where could I find another, or have one made?
Does anyone have a good cheat sheet/manual for installation of a new diesel? I'm getting pretty desperate to repower my Islander 30 MKII. This water in the oil is getting me down, but it seems like the local yacht companies in New Orleans want $10,000 to repower the boat, and it just dosen't seem worth it. An outboard tacked on to the back would be so tacky.
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Jim Bull
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Username: douglas31

Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Since Tim has elected to replace his P60 with a diesel, the exhaust manifold is still available as is the water pump. The rest of the engine has now been scrapped.
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David Band
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Username: attyband

Post Number: 15
Registered: 07-2011
Posted on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll take it. Please call 504-822-2263 and ask for David. Is it in good condition? How much do you want for it?
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rob ca
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Posted on Tuesday, June 04, 2013 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know I'm late to the game... I'm looking for a manifold.

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