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George Coates
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Username: george_iv

Post Number: 105
Registered: 07-2003


Posted on Wednesday, April 08, 2015 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello All,
We just started repairs on this early Palmer water jacket. Its a rough case, but luckily we were able to find some NOS water jacket repair sections in some old cast iron pipe that was laying around. Kinda like Rodin found the Thinker in all that bronze scrap...


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kevin lang
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Username: klanger

Post Number: 69
Registered: 03-2012


Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2015 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looking forward to another resurrection . Great stuff.

Kev
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J.B. Castagnos
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Username: jb_castagnos

Post Number: 1049
Registered: 07-2002


Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2015 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Glad to see you got it before it got bad. Looks like another Barker project. Keep us posted.
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kevin lang
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Username: klanger

Post Number: 70
Registered: 03-2012


Posted on Thursday, April 09, 2015 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What would this engine look like in running condition?
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RichardDurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 3562
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Friday, April 10, 2015 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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This is 1899-1900 illustration of an "Amateur"marine engine which was the kit form from Palmer, don't know why intake pipe is on starboard side ?

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These are photos of Dick Days fine old classic Palmer.


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kevin lang
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Username: klanger

Post Number: 71
Registered: 03-2012


Posted on Friday, April 10, 2015 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Richard, that's a fine old engine.
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Dick Briggs
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Username: dick

Post Number: 28
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Sunday, April 12, 2015 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This one seems to be almost a mirror image of Mr. Day's.


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RichardDurgee
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Username: richarddurgee

Post Number: 3563
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Sunday, April 12, 2015 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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That certainly is a very nice old Palmer !
Looks very original, is that the original paint?

These old pedestal mount Palmer engines are very rare, Not exactly sure of the last year they were mfgd but 1900 would be close ?

I have only seen one other with the brass levered air control on the generator valve, it was on the same engine but a stationary application ?


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Dick Briggs
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Username: dick

Post Number: 29
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Monday, April 13, 2015 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mr. Durgee. Thanks for the comments. I don't know about the paint. There are some areas where it has come off and there is no evidence of a different color underneath, even the the cracks and crevasses.

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Robert
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Username: robert

Post Number: 672
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Monday, April 13, 2015 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Quite a pattern and quite a casting! Looks like they soon learned a thicker crankshaft wore out its bearings more slowly - they were asking a lot of those early front crank bearings, supporting a flywheel of that weight. What is the appliance with the wing nut on top ahead of the priming cup?
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Dick Briggs
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Username: dick

Post Number: 30
Registered: 07-2004
Posted on Tuesday, April 14, 2015 - 07:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As I understand it, that is part of the mechanism to adjust the position of the stationary electrode with respect to the movable one as part of the ignitor.
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George Coates
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Username: george_iv

Post Number: 108
Registered: 07-2003


Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2016 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, it runs! The timer adjustments are a fun days work, but it does run pretty well for 125 years old. Should be a nice show engine. The brass tank is enough coolant to run for two tanks of gas without getting too hot. Starts with a single pull.

George



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Paul Gray
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Username: paulgray

Post Number: 154
Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2016 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cool! I'm assuming you got the igniter issues sorted out. Any videos?
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Ernie
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Username: ernie

Post Number: 2208
Registered: 01-2002


Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2016 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Neat!
NO incredible!!!!
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Richard A. Day Jr.
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Username: richardday

Post Number: 1115
Registered: 11-2003


Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2016 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Incredible job George. Wish Frank Palmer and Ray Bolling could see and hear it now. It is good to see how you have put it back to how it was when it was built about 1893. I think that style engine in the days of steam was referred to as "Wine Bottle" Hope you you bring it to the spring show at CMM and run it.
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Robert
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Username: robert

Post Number: 688
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Monday, January 11, 2016 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lazarus would be a good name for that engine! I know this is like admiring the frame not the painting, but what's the story on that neat table it's sitting on?

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