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John Tidwell
Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm a first timer to this site and new to sailboat ownership. The Palmer ran great last year but starter has allways acted funny alot clicks before engaging then not a great deal of rmps tired sounding. Removed starter and took to a rebuild shop and it seems to be a 6 volt starter they have ordered part and say it will work on a 12 volt system which I have on my boat sounds bogus to me.Is this posible or am I about to smoke a exspensive rebuild bill? Also where is a source for Palmer parts I've not had much luck finding any? Thanks the weathers getty nice and time to go sailing
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Senior Member
Username: richardday

Post Number: 384
Registered: 11-2003

Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Early P-60s used 6 volt IHC Cub Lo-Boy tractor starters. Later engines used same starter only 12 volt version. Go to an IHC tractor dealer and buy a used cub-lo boy tractor starter. Don't talk Palmer and don't talk Cub Cadet. Talk Cub Lo-Boy, C-60 engine. the engine block and head is all IHC CUB Lo-Boy which Palmer marinized. The later flywheels are Palmer. the exhaust manifold is Palmer and very difficult to find a used good one if your rusts through. The reverse gear is Paragon OXKB and the housing is Palmer. the gearing for the distributor, waterpump, generator or alternator are all Palmer supplied. The reverse gear should have sae 30 weight oil with the oil level about 1 inch below the shaft at the aft end of the gear box. The reverse gear is not lubricated from the engine and you should check it at least twice a year and change the oil once a year. Remove the cover plate to check the oil level. You won't hurt anything just looking. The Reverse gear does not lock in reverse but it should snap in forward and stay there with no slipping of the prop whan speeding up the engine. Check the air/steam vent line on the forward end of the head at least once a year and make sure there are no blockages in the end fittings and the hose or copper tubing. Sudden and wild temp rising can indicate a blockage in the vent line and it must be cleared immeadiatly or you can crack the head or block when a sudden rush of cold water hits the red hot inside of the head etc. The vent line is on top of the head about 3 inches back from the forward portion of the head. Make sure your PCV hose between the face of the carburetor backfire trap and the valve cover is intact and clear. Clean the dip stick filter with gasoline once a year so dust/lint build up won't rectrict air flow from the dipstick through the crankcase and into the carburetor intake. Check there is no serious build up in the outlet of the exhaust line that restricts the exhaust from flowing properly. My off the top of the head suggestions. I don't have any idea what Coast Guard rules are regarding starters on older engines. You are on your own on that point.
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Senior Member
Username: eddie

Post Number: 55
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ignition parts and oil filter elements are obtained at a auto parts store although they may have to order them. Napa Auto Parts can help you some of the tractor parts along with tractor parts dealers handling International Harvester tractors. West Marine and other marine dealers can do next to nothing for your engine. None of these sources will cross reference to Palmer, so as Richard says don't even mention Palmer to them. You will have to refer to the tractor model or know the part number to order. Many parts are different than the tractor so learn which these are.

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