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Gord Hicks
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Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am trying to figure out a value for a motor I have. it is a 6hp Acadia never used still in its original crate, it was shipped complete from the factory with several other crates containing (I believe)everything required to install it into a boat, drive shaft, gas tank, muffler, thru hull fittings, packing, cooling pipes, coil, spare make and break unit and lots of other stuff, etc. etc. As I said, all parts were shipped with the motor from the Acadia factory.

ultimately I would like to sell this motor and would appreciate any input I can get, it is located in Ontario.
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Robert
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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can you post photos? Use the Upload Attachment button below.
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Gord Hicks
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2017 - 07:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Robert
here are some pics of some of the included parts, I will try to get some of the motor itself today, it is very heavy, in a dark corner and crated so not so easy to get good ones.
thanks for asking






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Ned Lloyd
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Posted on Friday, April 21, 2017 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow! What a find! I'm looking forward to seeing the engine.
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Robert
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Posted on Monday, April 24, 2017 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That really is a museum piece! Thank you for the photos - more always welcome!
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Gord Hicks
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Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As I said its not easy to photo the motor due to the crate but I moved it out into the sunlight and did the best I could without prying the wood open. I see that the "6" is not actually stamped on the plate in the correct "hp" field(where nothing is stamped)so I suppose the 6hp claim could be debatable. on the other hand you can see the other serial numbers have dimpled the plate and the 6 has not, implying that the 1579 was hand stamped and the 6 at a different time. Also you can see on the shipping tags that the shipment was made the 22 of August 1972.

Enjoy
Gord














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Ned Lloyd
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Wow!! Yes, a real museum piece!

In some ways it would be a shame to disturb the crate and the unused condition, yet it would sort of also be a shame to simply leave it unused. A conundrom,.....

I'd love to let it sit next to my 5 hp Acadia, but it is outside my budget.
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Ernie
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Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can you give us the serial number? I can't quite make it out and I would like to add it to the Acadia serial number list.
Thanks
Ernie
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Ned Lloyd
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Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ernie, I think "1579" was indicated above. Probably just further indicating that Acadia S/N's mean absolutely nothing. lol
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Frustrated Gord
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Hi its Gord Hicks, sorry but I seem to be having a problem with my account and I am locked out so Im posting this way

please disregard my earlier mention of the 1579 because on closer examination I believe the serial number to be 4579,,,,or possibly 45796,,,as you can see though,,,the 6 at the end is stamped differently and I think it is the HP designation.

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Ernie
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Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2017 - 05:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi,
Can you get us the diameter of the flywheel and the overall height of the engine?
From looking at the pics I think this is a 4 HP and not a 6 HP.
I can determine the HP from the dimensions above.
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Ernie
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Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2017 - 05:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think the SN is 45796.
I have 45831 SN on the list confirmed as a 1976 engine, so 45796 fits for the date on the shipping crate.
The difference of 35 engines show that Acadia was still manufacturing them but not many in the last years of production. I think production ended in the early 80's
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Frustrated Gord
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Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2017 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I found a file full of goodies today and can confirm that the serial number is actually the full 45796, also that this motor is indeed a 4hp as you thought Ernie. I knew I had this file of course but haven't looked in it in years. I'm in the process of moving and things are all over the place. Included in it are original sales receipts, shipping documents, correspondence with the factory regarding this order, users/parts book/ business cards, you name it, even boat plans for an appropriate Dory.
Total cost for this setup in 1972 including taxes (and I think shipping) came to $611.44
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Keith Billet
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Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2017 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To All,
I love it when history becomes reality. Enjoyed this post and the possibility of a early style engine meeting a current marine project.
Keith
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Robert
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Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great photos, thank you! This deserves a full montage hosted somewhere on this site I would suggest.

What are the markings on top of the carburetor please?

Is the muffler cast by Acadia also and any markings on that?
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Ned Lloyd
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Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I stand corrected, apparently this S/N has some logic to it. That makes me wonder more about the logic of the S/N on my 5hp (# 55).
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Gord Hicks
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Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2017 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Ernie for consulting with Andrew to sort out my account problems.
I also stand corrected, on closer inspection I see that the order cost of $611.44 was definitely "FOB" Bridgewater, meaning the cost of shipping was not included in that figure.
Curiously though, a shipping receipt is not found elsewhere in these otherwise complete files. I would love to know how much that cost though, Im sure it would be a small fortune today.

Robert, I will have a closer look at the carb and muffler to answer your questions regarding them. I might be several days to respond as my internet will go out tonight until an as yet undetermined restart date.
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Ernie
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Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2017 - 09:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ned,

I don't think there is any logic to the 2 digit Acadia serial numbers.

I have seen too many duplicates on engines of different HP.
My list so far has 3 engines with the SN of 60.
A 5 HP a 6 HP and an 8 HP.

So the only logical thought I can come up with is an employees piecework number.
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Ned Lloyd
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Posted on Friday, May 12, 2017 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ernie,... Thank you. Interesting that some mean something and some don't.

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