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Rod Desborough
Visitor
| | Posted on Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 12:50 pm: | 
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Looking for specs and info for Sea Prince manufactured in Canada. Also need carb and distributor for Sea Prince for cosmetic purposes for potential museum display. |
Rod Desborough
Visitor
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 07:34 am: |
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Looking for info re 6 cylinder Kermath engine.
My attempt at the serial number is:
2100(or 3)48RU
Sea Prince,
30 and 20 in the other boxes but not sure what the labels on the boxes say??
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Rod Desborough
Visitor
| | Posted on Friday, December 21, 2007 - 02:48 pm: |
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Here is a poor picture of the nameplate. |
drrot
Visitor
| | Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 11:10 am: |
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Rod,
Your engine is based on the Hercules QXC block. Chris-Craft used them in the 1930s to make a 85hp model K. 3 3/8" bore. 4 1/8" stroke. 221CID. |
rjdesborough
Visitor
| | Posted on Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 05:42 pm: |
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Thanks for the information. Now I need to find a source for the missing parts, primarily a distributor and a carb which I assume had a flame arrestor. Parts only need to be cosmetically accurate for Museum display purposes. |
Al Cleary
Member
Username: alcleary
Post Number: 4
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 01:16 am: |
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This is a Sea Prince that I sold this summer, thought to be about 1938. I'll try to find what ever info I may still have left if you need it. This picture shows the carb you'll need and the flame arrestor.  |
Rod Desborough
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 11:56 am: |
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Al; Thanks - appreciate any info/leads re the missing parts.
Rod D. |
Lawrence T Wolfe
Senior Member
Username: larry_from_maryland
Post Number: 276
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 05:54 pm: |
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The engine pictured appears to have a 2 bolt flange mount for a magneto. You can buy rebuilt ones from valubilt,but they would look like newer ones not an old mag. |
Rod Desborough
Visitor
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 09:32 am: |
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Larry: I have added a picture of the Sea Prince distributor - is the magneto mounting consistent with your note? |
Lawrence T Wolfe
Senior Member
Username: larry_from_maryland
Post Number: 277
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 12:33 pm: |
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The other hole must be for a generator. Spring clips often mean a delco distributor. |
Al Cleary
Member
Username: alcleary
Post Number: 5
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 12:43 am: |
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This is a picture of the other side of the Kermath, showing the distributor side. When I found the engine, it still had remnants of metal bands holding the engine to pieces of a wood skid. The engine had been rebuilt many years ago and had never been reinstalled in the boat, just set in the bottom until the boat rotted and the engine fell through to the ground. I'm still trying to find any paper info, but no luck yet.  |
Andrew Menkart
Moderator
Username: andrew
Post Number: 910
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 09:39 am: |
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We have the Sea Prince instructions manual for sale on the MarineEngine.com site. Although I don't know if the one made in Canada is different than the one made in the US... |
Steve Harrison
Member
Username: 41mang
Post Number: 5
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 11:46 pm: |
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I have an original sea prince in a 1941 Mang open launch. It's based on a Hercules QXD-5 block.
It has an Auto-Lite IGW 4124 distributor. It also has a Stromberg SFM-3 carb with a Zenith spark arrestor. I'm actually looking for a cap and rotor for this dist also. The IGW distributor was used in a lot of older Willy's and Jeep motors. The 4124 is the application number so for cosmetic purposes it wouldn't matter as long as it was an IGW, I guess. The Stromberg SFM carb is very expensive to rebuild so a lot of them were switched to the cheaper to repair zenith 63's This means the SFM-3's should be out there in some numbers unrebuilt. Perfect for your application. By the way, if you find a good one, in useable condition, with the accelerator pump leather in good shape,...I could use the pump to get mine going again. I'll horse trade with you, or make an offer, either way. My motor was switched to 12 volt some time in the dim past and they CUT the aluminum shroud to accomodate the generator. I'd like to get one of those shrouds. If you come across a parted out motor for your missing bits, let me know. I'll do the same for you.
Good luck. |
rdesborough@ns.sympatico.ca
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 05:57 am: |
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Steve: Thanks for the info re the missing parts and if I find a source I'll let you know per your request |
drrot
Visitor
| | Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 06:49 am: |
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Steve,
The parts are available at NAPA. AL59 cap, AL32 rotor, AL 38 condenser, CS 709 points |
Al Cleary
Member
Username: alcleary
Post Number: 6
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 11:41 am: |
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Rod:
My engine pictured above is the same as Steve's, Hercules QXD5M. It also has the same Stromburg carb and Auto-Lite distributor as his. I came across a 1937 and 1946 Kermath sales brochure. I'll photocopy the Sea Prince specifications pages and email them to you soon. |
Rod Desborough
New member
Username: rod_desborough
Post Number: 1
Registered: 01-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2008 - 06:23 am: |
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Al, thanks for the follow up - I look forward to your email, RD |
