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Jody
Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi, I'm JOdy. Among a group of antique gas engines that was purchased months ago,there was a Kermath engine that came with a group. It is a 4 cyl. #13637. It looked like it may have been painted blue. I was recommended by Rich Langtry to come to this sight. Anyone know the history of the Kermath?

Thank you very much, JOdy
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andrew
Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jody,

A lot of multi-cylinder Kermath engines are still in use in vintage Chris Craft and other runabouts and utilities. There is literature information on the engines available. You will need to detirmine what model of Kermath engine you have. Among the 4 cylinder models were the:
  • 20
  • 35
  • 50
  • Sea-Cub
  • Sea-Bird
  • Sea-Dog

If you can supply the engine displacement, or bore and stroke... we can probably identify what engine you have.

Regards,
Andrew
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andrew
Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2002 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jody,
If you can't get any other information a photo might help.

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Jim Walker
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a Kermath Marine Engine I am trying to get some history, specifications, etc. for. It is a Ford or Mercury Flathead V8 Kermath Conversion (from the '40s??). It has a lot of marine features such as marine manifolds, aluminum oil pan, vertical starter drive, and a Kermath transmission.
Any assistance would be appreciated.

Jim
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andrew
Posted on Friday, May 10, 2002 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A lot of the inline Kermath engines were based on Hercules blocks.... but I don't think that the V-8 was. A quick look at some if the Kermath information that I have reveals only one V-8 which seemed to be refered to as a model "V-8". It was 90HP at 3600RPM and 221 cid.... but I am not sure what block it was based on. Anyone else...???
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Bill Salisbury
Posted on Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This Kermath V-8 was based on a Ford flathead V8 of the 1946 vintage and newer. They also used this engine in a version called the Kermath Screwball. The engine was mounted on end and drove an underwater unit that was mounted through the bottom of the boat. The entire engine swiveled for steering, much like an outboard. Hope this helps.
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Joe Wolfe
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Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 06:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a Kermath Model "Sea Jeep" 61 H.P. engine in an antique boat I purchased. I have the orginal manuals, it's an L.Head, 4 Cylinder, 3 1/8" bore, 4 3/8' stroke, piston displacement 134.2 cu. inch. I live near Toronto, Canada and want to have this engine rebuilt. Are you aware of any rebuilders in this area. Also any other information you have on these engines. Thanks, Joe
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David Adams
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Posted on Sunday, October 17, 2004 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I recently purchased a Dodge boat powered by a Kermath Sea Jeep Highspeed engine. I would like to get technical specifications and manuals for this engine.
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Bill Freeman
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Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 06:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a Kermath " Sea Jeep Fisherman " complete with shaft, prop, instruments, tank, etc from a 23' 6" x 5' launch built in late 30s ? Engine is in excellent cond. hasn't been used in over 50 years. Would like to sell. Can anyone tell me the value ?
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spikon
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Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 05:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just bought a sailboat with a 20 hp Kermath Sea-Cub. Does anyone know how to get a manual for this engine? Is it anything specail with this engine? Value?

Tomas
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David Adams
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Posted on Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a Kermath Sea Jeep Highspeed. Unfortunately the boat it came in did not include any manuals or othe rmaintenance documentation. Can some help me with what is the oil capacity w/filter change? What is the meaning of the extra mark above the "full" mark on the dipstick?
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larry_from_maryland
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2005 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am not sure which engine you have,but alot of the old herks had the word FULL hand stamped between the 2 marks.Sometimes full ends up being closer to the add line than the full line.The top line is the full mark and the lower one is ADD.On one engine i have it took several long looks and a check of the manuel.
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joe_h
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 03:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Andrew and Kermath owners every where. I also am looking for manuals for a Sea Cub and a Sea Jeep. You mentioned that info was available. Can u direct me to it?
My Sea Jeep s/n is 3061J50 and the tag says Kermath Canada Ltd. Toronto. The Sea Cub s/n is 650251 Code ZXBM ZX. Kermath Mfg Co.Detroit Michigan. The code might have something to do with the clutch which has a reduction gear so it takes a left hand prop. The Sea Cub needs a starter and generator. Thanks all
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larry_from_maryland
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The ZXB is the hercules engine model.I guess the M is for marine,and the next ZX is like New York they named it twice.
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david adams
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To Lary from Maryland.
The Kermath Sea Jeep Highspeed is a marine conversion of the Willy's "Jeep" L-head 4 cylinder engine from the Willy's Jeeps (M38, CJ-2B, etc.). It is not a Hercules engine conversion. (I believe it was derived from a Continental engine.) My problem is that there are three (3) marks on the dipsick -from bottom to top: "ADD", "FULL", and unlabled. At "FULL" the engine only took 3 quarts including the filter. Obvisouly too little. In a JEEP with no filter the sump holds four (4) quarts. The filter - when equipped - another quart.
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larry_from_maryland
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2005 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You may have a replacement dipstick that someone added a higher mark to when they realized the oil leval was too low.
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Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 04:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello, i have an old sea bird 50HP Kermath engine.
Have anywere infomation or manuals about this old engine?
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SMITHDAVE12
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Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 04:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I HAVE A 4 CYLINDER FLATHEAD ENGINE WITH WHAT I THINK IS A UPLIFT CARBURATOR. IT'S IN A THOMAS BOBCAT. IT'S NOT THE ORIGINAL ENGINE. I NEED A HEAD GASKET FOR THIS ENGINE BUT I DON'T KNOW THE MAKE OR MODEL OF THIS ENGINE. HAVE PICTURES, CAN ANYBODY HELP.
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Tomas Segebladh
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Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Try to get in contact with Jim Thomson, he might help you. Address: jim.thomson@verizon.net.

Good luck,
Tomas
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John Barnes
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Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am looking to find info and pictures, if available for a Kermath Sea-Prince. It is a flat head six and I believe originally rated at 95 H.P.
My dad had a boat in the early to mid 50's that was powered be a "Sea-Prince". Any info that might be available would be greatly appreciated.

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