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Vincent Veary
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Username: cape_cod_cc

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Registered: 09-2006
Posted on Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello,

I tried posting this response to someone’s questions about these motors but the system would not take my response perhaps the thread was too old. At any rate I thought I would see what we can find out about these great old V-6 engines. I have one and have learned a lot about them but as you know there is always more to learn. Here is my original post...

Hello,

I also came here to find out more on this engine. I will tell you what I know. Yes this is a Buick engine that was sold to Dauntless in the mid 60s who made them for Universal to marinize. It is a 225 CID that was used in Jeeps of that era and is really the same engine Buick used through the 70s and 80s as they bought the rights to the engine back in the early 70s.

It is generally rated at 155 HP which is very good for its weight and the era it was built in. It is an unusual odd fire engine which means that the 6 cylinder do not fire at perfect intervals of 60 degrees but rather 45 and 90 degree intervals which makes for a noted rough idle but when it is above idle it is fine. As a side note this was changed by Buick in 1977 to make it an even fire engine.

I think these are great engines and the Buick v6 is noted as one of the all time best engine designs. I would love to find some literature from Universal on this engine. One of the boats they used this in was a Correct Craft 16ft Skylark and as you can imagine this boat was very fast.

Evinrude also used this engine for one of there IO set ups in the late 60s and through the 70s. It of course was not a Universal marinization but rather an Evinrude conversion.

If anyone else can add more I would love to hear from you and again I am very interested in finding any paper for this engine.

Thanks,
Vince
Cape Cod CC
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Mark Johnson
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Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a Correct Craft with a V-6 in it. It has been in storage for maanny years. I got it from a marina where it was abandoned. I started the engine but it had poshed out a freeze plug and water got in the oil. I cleaned that out but have not had time to work with it further. I think it will make a nice river boat.
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Ross DuVal
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Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep, got one in my 1970 17' BellBoy. Runs great, unique sound-lots of pep. Same engine as used in late 60's early 70's CJ5 Jeep. There are carb kits available and some souped up timing but thats for gear heads, I like it fine as is.
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Rand O'Leary
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Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2007 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone know if there is a special tool for getting the spark plugs out of the Sabre V6 without taking the Exhaust Manifold off? The engine is in a Correct Craft - 1964.
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John Morrow
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Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am looking for one of these engines to replace mine. I have had this one since 1966 in a Correct Craft Skylark. I have tried finding Universal Marine or engine company without success so far. Any help would be appreciated.
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Vincent Veary
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Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello John,

I did have a lead on 2 of these engines and spoke to the seller a few times as a friend of mine was looking for one as well. We never followed up with him but I may be able to find the sellers information.

Also if you need a block or other parts you can use a Chris Craft, pictured, or Evinrude version of this engine. The marinization parts will be different but the main engine parts are the same.

Vince
Chris Craft V6
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Vincent Veary
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Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2008 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It was right here that I heard about these engines. Here is the link...

http://www.oldmarineengine.com/discus/messages/3449/102674.html
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bobby gentile
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Posted on Friday, July 18, 2008 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i just purchased a 63 skylark with a rusted out thermostat housing and cannot find the part none of the boat dealers can figure anythign out. they need to know who the motor is marinized by.if any one can help me out it would be greatly appreciated.
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Joseph Centanni
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Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have 3 set of heads for buick v6 225 engines,that i will sell cheap.These are automotive heads so no rust,2 sets have been cleaned & valves lapped.one set is the short version.I used 225 buicks in my small shrimp boat so i had spare head
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69Larsen
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2008 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a 1969 Larsen boat with the 225 V6 engine I would like to sell. The boat has been sitting for several years. I have the service manual and drive parts catalog. Loacated in Wisconsin. If interested please contact me for further details:
Mike.Steiner@MCSControl.com

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