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Ermanno Veggetti
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Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2016 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi, I'm from Italy. I don't know if you can help me. My uncle is a collector of old engines, and he bought an OMC (Outboard Marine Corporation) engine, model GH1-695, nr series 62974. He ask me if itís possible to find the manual of it, or other items (drawings, spare part list, etc).

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Leigh Darryl Ovens
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Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2016 - 05:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi there,
Interesting. Here that would probably have an "Iron Horse" badge and either a 6V, 12V or possibly 32V battery charging generator on it. There is a slightly smaller model with I think straight fins on the head, and it had a slightly different name (like Chore Horse or similar). I'm not sure if those are straight or curved fins in your picture. They both had very simple suction lift carbs hence the broad shallow tank. My father had one, (ex house, 12V lighting plant), that was used for tractor battery charging etc when I was a kid (50 years back). I'd expect you will find there should be more information under the name Iron Horse, (but I could be wrong!).

Cheers Darryl
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Ermanno Veggetti
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Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2016 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello, thanks for your interesting.
The only label on it is the one in the picture, nothing other. So it's not marqued "Iron Horse" or " Chore Horse". According to what is written on this label maybe there was a generator, but we haven't. In your opinion, is it possible that someone has modified the carburettor, perhaps to run with gas, and not with petrol?
In your opinion also, it might be interesting to a collector? My uncle, the owner, is primarily interested for motorcycle engines..
Thanks, bye Ermanno
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Ermanno Veggetti
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Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2016 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Darryl, i've searched "iron horse" on google and I find it! Thank You!
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Leigh DARRYL Ovens
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Posted on Thursday, October 06, 2016 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes I've seen a reasonable number of restored units that turn up at shows and displays around here, (Northern New Zealand). Some sans generator. The generator does not have it's own bearings but is cantilevered off one side of the engine. So it is relying on the engine bearings to hold the armature etc. While the armature is unusually short, it still puts the brushes a long way away from the bearings. And Dad used to find his had a little trouble with vibration causing the brushes to jump, with resulting high brush wear. This may contribute to the numbers you see sans generator.
I don't know all the models they produced but have seen several versions of carburettors, so I couldn't say yours has been modified, however from what I can see I would agree it doesn't have an original fitting look about it, And there may not be room for it in that position when the generator is in place. As for running on gas? not sure. That carb appears to have a float bowl suggesting a liquid fuel, (like petrol). My guess is the pipe from the tank breather to the carb is just a breather (if copper) or (if plastic), maybe just a convenient place to stick the pipe temporarily to keep it clean!? Is there another pipe supplying the carb that is not visible in that photo?

PS the site is not recognising my password, despite indicating that I am already logged on! Unfortunately I cannot find an option to reset it and it wont let me on as a visitor, unless I change my username as it is "too close" to my existing username, hence adding my 1st name to make it different.
Cheers Darryl
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Robert
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Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2016 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ermanno, if you register on Smokstak you will find lots of people who collect and restore engines like the "Iron Horse" and can give you exact information and tell you where to get parts etc.

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