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george_iv
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Post Number: 106
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This thing was in the back of a truck they hauled in the other day. I am not sure if it's marine or not, but some of it looks familiar as marine design. No noticable markings and no place for a tag.

exhaust side

Thanks,

George Coates
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george_iv
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Post Number: 107
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Another picture of other side.

intake side

(pepsi can for scale)
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ernie
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Post Number: 415
Registered: 01-2002


Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

George,
Looks like an old fire truck engine.
Hope this helps
Ernie
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bill s
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Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

great jugs, by the way. the fan says fire truck, or construction equipment. does it have a governor? at least if it was in a fire truck, it was never in salt water.
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rholcomb
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Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.americanlafrance.com/Museum/


check out the 1914 type 12 model bob....
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george_iv
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Post Number: 108
Registered: 07-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, I think this is a American-LaFrance. Anybody want it? Or know somebody who would?

George Coates
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andrew
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Post Number: 927
Registered: 11-2001


Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Larry Healy was having difficutly posting so he sent this to me by email:

quote:

Goodday George This a pre 1910 engine by the looks of it & should be saved if at all possible--where are you located--I would buy it just to save it if it's anywhere near me -----Campbellford,Ont. about 100 miles East ot Toronto "All the best" larry Healey




Larry's email is mechman@nexicom.net
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jb_castagnos
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Post Number: 219
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Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

George, Audie Tequino just signed a deal with the city of Morgan City, they have a 1922 American La France with a bad engine, donated it to our engine club. This engine looks similar.
J.B.
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bruce
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Post Number: 228
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Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Saw a simular t-head engine alive and perculating in a beautifully restored 20's era Ahrens -Fox pumper at a recent old engine meet South of Oneonta NY. A marvolous fascinating engine to watch and listen too busily pumping water from the Hanford Mill, mill pond for the crowd.
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audie
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Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 04:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The "T" head design does look like an American-Lafrance engine. The engine in the pumper that J.B. talked about has two cylinders per jug (3jugs six cyl)This may be an earlier version of the same engine. The block and cam setup look similar to what we have here. I would be interested in it for parts if it is American-LaFrance.Who knows it may be able to replace the engine we have.
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george_iv
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Post Number: 109
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Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Now please understand I know very little about fire engines and fire equipment in general. The only way I can recognise a fire truck is most of them are still painted red... So read the following with this preamble in mind.
It appears that the Type 12 American LaFrance was built from 1914 to 1920. It had separate Jugs, and was a six clyinder with two spark plugs per hole. One set was mag and the other distributor fired. Seems they were 120 Hp, with a one inch schrebler updraft. There is some notes about a unique oiling system, but I can't find any details. The engine in the scrap yard has a large "knot" on the left side oil pan with a shaft running vertically up to a gear. This could be a part of that system.
Right now, the thing is just sitting. I don't have the room or time for another project, but if somebody wants it, and they're sure they want it, I'll drag it home and store until arrangements can be made to continue it's journey. Basically to save it from Chinese furnaces...
It's located in Elkton, Maryland and weighs about (WAG) 600lbs. I'd be happy to ship it by truck to anyplace, and can arrange it. Or just come and get it is fine also. Whatever. I just hate to see it get scrapped!!!

Thanks and let me know who wants it,

George Coates

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thomas
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Post Number: 231
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Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is the engine Bruce was refering to at the
Hanford Mills show. A beauty for sure.
T
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thomas
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Post Number: 232
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Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hanford
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jibjab
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Posted on Sunday, May 04, 2008 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

new post happy 2008}
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darek drogosz
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Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looking for camshaft for 440 chrysler marine engine revers rotation

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